Message from @pratel

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2018-07-23 05:12:23 UTC  

Not socialist

2018-07-23 05:12:33 UTC  

socai demcocracy is what bernie ran on

2018-07-23 05:12:36 UTC  

socail

2018-07-23 05:12:37 UTC  

What my person wants to see is a nordic model but with democratic control of workplaces

2018-07-23 05:12:46 UTC  

social democrat or some shit

2018-07-23 05:12:47 UTC  

I think we need to sorta separate things a bit.

2018-07-23 05:12:55 UTC  

There's a couple key things here:

2018-07-23 05:12:58 UTC  

he wants to pay for ur shit

2018-07-23 05:13:04 UTC  

aka social

2018-07-23 05:13:14 UTC  

He wants rich people to pay "their fair share"

2018-07-23 05:13:14 UTC  

@Blackhawk342 How long would a workplace last democratically?

2018-07-23 05:13:33 UTC  

@GingaBomber taxs r theft tho

2018-07-23 05:13:33 UTC  

How long will a company last democratically?

2018-07-23 05:13:43 UTC  

Imagine how hard it is to start a company only for you to be kicked out

2018-07-23 05:13:45 UTC  

That depends, i know there are certain companies like that

2018-07-23 05:14:04 UTC  

VICE ran a story about a democratically controlled bakery

2018-07-23 05:14:05 UTC  

I wonder if they'll even make it through month without factions forming in the companies

2018-07-23 05:14:08 UTC  

when the has private banks printing unlimited debt money tax is bullshit just saying.

2018-07-23 05:14:14 UTC  

(1) Government provision of services
(2) Ownership of Personal Property
(3) Ownership of productive property
(4) Government based redistribution (charity is something else)

2018-07-23 05:14:25 UTC  

Like how about customers?

2018-07-23 05:14:29 UTC  

There's a bookstore in Seattle that is in trouble that has been a coop.

2018-07-23 05:14:33 UTC  

they can spend all the military money on tax and its like 1% of what taxes get govt wide

2018-07-23 05:14:34 UTC  

Shareholders should be in charge

2018-07-23 05:14:49 UTC  

that is the scam prisions and military

2018-07-23 05:15:12 UTC  

Coops can sorta work on small scales. I'm pretty pro-free market, but if people want Coops I'm all for it.

2018-07-23 05:15:14 UTC  

make ppl dumb so they go to priso

2018-07-23 05:15:20 UTC  

They tend to have lots of free rider problems mostly.

2018-07-23 05:15:22 UTC  

then make loads of bombs

2018-07-23 05:15:27 UTC  

tax the normies

2018-07-23 05:15:29 UTC  

And issues planning ahead.

2018-07-23 05:15:31 UTC  

rich ppl dont pay tax

2018-07-23 05:15:32 UTC  

btw

2018-07-23 05:15:38 UTC  

trump he hasnt paid in years

2018-07-23 05:15:39 UTC  

lol

2018-07-23 05:15:51 UTC  

@pratel India has a very successful Co-Op that is one of the largest companies in india rn

2018-07-23 05:16:00 UTC  

only if you make money large amounts u pay tax

2018-07-23 05:16:02 UTC  

It's a diary company called Amul

2018-07-23 05:16:04 UTC  

Interesting.

2018-07-23 05:16:09 UTC  

and thats a scam too

2018-07-23 05:16:18 UTC  

It was started by debt ridden farmers decades ago

2018-07-23 05:16:34 UTC  

In gujarat, which is a very arid place