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2018-10-19 11:40:44 UTC

@Kyle Judkins Mongolians and Turks in Siberia actually have a higher IQ than many Rich Middle Eastern States

2018-10-19 11:40:58 UTC

And here is another key factor i think:

2018-10-19 11:41:06 UTC

Why wouldn't they be more intelligent than Japanese

2018-10-19 11:41:09 UTC

but wouldn't that also work the further south you go? cuz you reach a similar climate again?

2018-10-19 11:41:12 UTC

Connection to the rest of the world

2018-10-19 11:41:36 UTC

So you're saying interaction, or nurture is a factor

2018-10-19 11:41:45 UTC

ofc its a factor

2018-10-19 11:41:51 UTC

Flynn effect

2018-10-19 11:41:54 UTC

i never said it wasnt

2018-10-19 11:42:27 UTC

Here's a plot twist what if it is both

2018-10-19 11:42:33 UTC

I have to go, you guys think aboot this ๐Ÿ‘‹

2018-10-19 11:42:35 UTC

we all said its both

2018-10-19 11:42:37 UTC

Where nurture becomes an inheritable nature

2018-10-19 11:42:43 UTC

as for the further south, id have to check, like i said im just thinking out loud

2018-10-19 11:42:56 UTC

It is both but one is less significant. No one ever said it's not both.

2018-10-19 11:43:01 UTC

^

2018-10-19 11:43:05 UTC

well

2018-10-19 11:43:12 UTC

Kyle said its not both, he added culture too

2018-10-19 11:43:19 UTC

You can reduce the IQ of a person by hitting them on the head with a Baseball Bat, that's Environment

2018-10-19 11:43:20 UTC

Culture is nurture

2018-10-19 11:43:26 UTC

Said the most important was nurture

2018-10-19 11:43:41 UTC

you saying black peopel have no culture now? ๐Ÿ˜›

2018-10-19 11:43:48 UTC

They do

2018-10-19 11:43:49 UTC

and where that culture comes from?
who invented it?

2018-10-19 11:43:58 UTC

Tribes

2018-10-19 11:43:59 UTC

not you

2018-10-19 11:44:03 UTC

Its all the flynn effect + genetics + ambition/drive

2018-10-19 11:44:25 UTC

Natural environment forced it i think

2018-10-19 11:44:25 UTC

Consider the hypothesis that nurture influences nature

2018-10-19 11:44:32 UTC

Maybe even in the short term

2018-10-19 11:44:36 UTC

Native African countries before Europeans urbanized the Continent were actually very sustainable and they still are.

2018-10-19 11:44:37 UTC

Look at Icelandic strongman

2018-10-19 11:45:00 UTC

Icelandic strongman is genetics

The weak ones died off and all you have left is strong gened people in a small pool so the strong genes remain a lot

2018-10-19 11:45:08 UTC

They get bored decide to get strong as f***, and then their kids end up inherently genetically better than their parents, and then that Trend continues as long as you keep pushing it every generation

2018-10-19 11:46:03 UTC

You body building and impregnating a woman will not have a significant effect on the off spring

2018-10-19 11:46:21 UTC

Why not,

2018-10-19 11:46:41 UTC

It will give them a pre-disposition to be similar in metabolism/ease of muscle growth

2018-10-19 11:46:53 UTC

that is if they inherit the fathers genes ๐Ÿ˜‰

2018-10-19 11:47:01 UTC

Well, why are jamaicans so good at running

2018-10-19 11:47:02 UTC

Consider this, my natural sleeping cycle is in the morning instead of at night

2018-10-19 11:47:08 UTC

and ethiopians so good at long marathons

2018-10-19 11:47:16 UTC

If I have zero obligations my body naturally won't go to sleep until the morning, and I don't sleep well at night

2018-10-19 11:47:28 UTC

thats called biological clock

2018-10-19 11:47:31 UTC

you can set that

2018-10-19 11:47:33 UTC

And at this point we are starting to realize that that might be a genetically passed down treat

2018-10-19 11:47:48 UTC

I can't, and if I leave it alone I automatically default to having a biological clock that makes me go to sleep in the morning

2018-10-19 11:48:05 UTC

Hell I had to work 7 in the morning every single day for the Last 5 Years

2018-10-19 11:48:06 UTC

It is your biological clock

2018-10-19 11:48:16 UTC

And immediately went back to my default of fall asleep in the morning the second I didn't have that job

2018-10-19 11:48:19 UTC

move to a different timezone ๐Ÿ˜‰

2018-10-19 11:48:31 UTC

Well we are starting to realize that it might be something that is passed down

2018-10-19 11:48:45 UTC

Most likely I would have had a relative that was in charge of keeping watch at night

2018-10-19 11:48:45 UTC

@Kyle Judkins nah that kind of unproductive behavior decreases your chances of building a family and passing your blood, that's how natural selection happens down the generations.. not by body building.

2018-10-19 11:48:51 UTC

If that was the case you wouldn't get Jetlag

2018-10-19 11:49:14 UTC

What?

2018-10-19 11:49:39 UTC

It means that my sleep cycle is naturally wired for the first part of the day

2018-10-19 11:49:48 UTC

It's not like I have an Australian time zone sleep cycle

2018-10-19 11:49:55 UTC

you can change your sleep cycle

2018-10-19 11:50:02 UTC

Not effectively

2018-10-19 11:50:08 UTC

yes you can

2018-10-19 11:50:09 UTC

If I fight that I'm always tired

2018-10-19 11:50:14 UTC

thats the point

2018-10-19 11:50:18 UTC

your body is trying to maintain it

2018-10-19 11:50:18 UTC

Here we go Captain outdated 1950s

2018-10-19 11:50:24 UTC

Maintain what?

2018-10-19 11:50:31 UTC

its current sleep cycle

2018-10-19 11:50:34 UTC

I had a strict sleep cycle for 5 years straight

2018-10-19 11:50:39 UTC

exactly

2018-10-19 11:50:43 UTC

The f****** millisecond I didn't have that job my body defaulted

2018-10-19 11:50:52 UTC

thats just you doing it to yourself

2018-10-19 11:51:02 UTC

No it isn't, if you look at the timestamps on all the music I've created

2018-10-19 11:51:12 UTC

It almost always occurs around 4 or 5 a.m.

2018-10-19 11:51:24 UTC

yes, so you've been keeping yourself up through the night

2018-10-19 11:51:27 UTC

and your body adapts to it

2018-10-19 11:51:30 UTC

My body naturally wants to be awake at night, it didn't actually wants to sleep in the morning

If I sleep at night I don't make any music, and I'm tired all day

2018-10-19 11:51:41 UTC

I actually experienced this myself

2018-10-19 11:51:44 UTC

I haven't been keeping myself up you f****** retard, read

2018-10-19 11:52:01 UTC

clearly you have

2018-10-19 11:52:14 UTC

If I go to sleep at 11 at night I wake up by 1

2018-10-19 11:52:20 UTC

And I will not be able to go back to sleep until the morning

2018-10-19 11:52:27 UTC

yes cuz your body isn't used to that time cycle yet

2018-10-19 11:52:30 UTC

But the problem was that i kept staying up longer and longer, eventually shifting my day nigh cycle

2018-10-19 11:52:37 UTC

5 years of the same sleep cycle wasn't enough time to get used to it

2018-10-19 11:52:42 UTC

Are you f****** out of your mind

2018-10-19 11:52:45 UTC

I used to work nightshifts because of it

2018-10-19 11:52:53 UTC

i dont anymore tho

2018-10-19 11:52:54 UTC

You can't just go "Right today i'll set my sleep cycle to 12 hours earlier"

2018-10-19 11:53:00 UTC

It has to adapt

2018-10-19 11:53:05 UTC

and afterwards

2018-10-19 11:53:07 UTC

Holy s*** you are actually autistic

2018-10-19 11:53:08 UTC

you just worked it back on your own

2018-10-19 11:53:14 UTC

ad hominem, nice

2018-10-19 11:53:17 UTC

So 5 years I built a sleep cycle of sleeping at 11 every night

2018-10-19 11:53:26 UTC

And then my body was instantly able to change that by 12 hours

2018-10-19 11:53:34 UTC

Comfortably,

2018-10-19 11:53:34 UTC

How do you think Jetlag works? ๐Ÿ˜›

2018-10-19 11:53:37 UTC

Yeah but what did u do then?

2018-10-19 11:53:42 UTC

in those 5 years

2018-10-19 11:53:52 UTC

I slept like s*** from 11 till 6 in the morning everyday

2018-10-19 11:54:12 UTC

seems liek you just didn't sleep enough, not in a "wrong cycle"

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