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2018-07-17 13:42:36 UTC

idk, that problem seems to slowly being fixing itself

2018-07-17 13:42:53 UTC

I mean, the joke exists: Donald Trump Cures Cancer! Next morning's newspaper: Donald Trump hates Aids Patients

2018-07-17 13:43:15 UTC

if they keep attacking gaming, which means they attack most young men which is like half the future voting population.

2018-07-17 13:43:32 UTC

Both sides are attacking it, though.

2018-07-17 13:43:47 UTC

Issue is, you need both sides for the US to function

2018-07-17 13:43:52 UTC

The Right's using violent media as a deflection from guns.

2018-07-17 13:43:55 UTC

One issue is if one side gets destroyed

2018-07-17 13:43:57 UTC

We lose the balance

2018-07-17 13:44:02 UTC

welp

2018-07-17 13:44:04 UTC

we're fyucked

2018-07-17 13:44:14 UTC

trump can either say his victory was false and undermine his entire administration

2018-07-17 13:44:24 UTC

or say russia didnt do it and undermine US intelligence

2018-07-17 13:44:45 UTC

Is there any doubtthe US intelligence agencies are corrupt and biased?

2018-07-17 13:44:53 UTC

I think the beast has now outgrown the master.

2018-07-17 13:45:49 UTC

This sums up my opinion on it pretty well.

2018-07-17 13:45:54 UTC

I think Russia did meddle in the election but I also thing US intelligence is heavily biased and not truthful about a good portion of the investigation.

2018-07-17 13:46:11 UTC

Duh?

2018-07-17 13:46:14 UTC

Sorry

2018-07-17 13:46:25 UTC

I mean to say, yes obviously.

2018-07-17 13:46:38 UTC

Did you see the sh*tshow on the FBI peter strozk testimony?

2018-07-17 13:46:38 UTC

It's not a two choice answer.

2018-07-17 13:46:49 UTC

Trump doesn't only have to pick one.

2018-07-17 13:46:53 UTC

that guy had balls after that whole thing to say "I have no bias"

2018-07-17 13:47:07 UTC

it doesnt matter what you think is true

2018-07-17 13:47:07 UTC

But it IS true that the Russians meddled.

2018-07-17 13:47:15 UTC

it matters how it plays out in the public

2018-07-17 13:47:21 UTC

trump either admits he didnt win the presidency

2018-07-17 13:47:24 UTC

or he says US intel is lying

2018-07-17 13:47:40 UTC

Why the extremes, though?

2018-07-17 13:47:51 UTC

what extremes

2018-07-17 13:47:55 UTC

those arent even the extremes

2018-07-17 13:47:58 UTC

those are his option

2018-07-17 13:48:04 UTC

Yeah, but that's assuming the russians meddling in the elections was done in order to make him win.

2018-07-17 13:48:10 UTC

by saying the dems are whining everyone is running stories saying hes a traitor

2018-07-17 13:48:17 UTC

if he says its true and russia did bad

2018-07-17 13:48:21 UTC

hes admitting he didnt win

2018-07-17 13:48:22 UTC

Do we know that what Russia did 100% changed the outcome of the election or did it only make a small impact?

2018-07-17 13:48:37 UTC

Are you talking about the media trap, or truth?

2018-07-17 13:48:47 UTC

i cant explain this anymore that what i said

2018-07-17 13:48:54 UTC

it is plainly clear the FBI had a bias ... or rather I shouldnt say that... i will say this guy definitely did though ... and the people he was texting and who were texting him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCEDuZlE84E

2018-07-17 13:49:07 UTC

I don't agree with that, the Russians defiantly meddled in the election, but I don't think they did so in order for either candidate to win.

2018-07-17 13:49:31 UTC

personally imo it was pretty obvious that they were trying to sow disorder into online discourse... but the thing is with social media everyones really great at doing that on their own :/

2018-07-17 13:49:33 UTC

From what I've seen it was mostly there just to breed unrest in the electorate.

2018-07-17 13:49:45 UTC

I mean we know that basically every country interferes in elections. Did Russia do it more or less than others and why only focus on Russia?

2018-07-17 13:49:47 UTC

we know russia supported antifa and anyone anti antifa

2018-07-17 13:49:50 UTC

they want street battles

2018-07-17 13:50:06 UTC

and we don't do the same in russia?

2018-07-17 13:50:07 UTC

Indeed

2018-07-17 13:50:20 UTC

There's not really a way to do it in russia.

2018-07-17 13:50:27 UTC

sure there is

2018-07-17 13:50:29 UTC

Not like there is here.

2018-07-17 13:50:54 UTC

there is dissent in Russia, all the US needs to do is make sure people know about it

2018-07-17 13:50:55 UTC

yeah in terms of playin of racial and ideological divides there isnt

2018-07-17 13:51:03 UTC

Basically, my perception of this: Russia meddling in US politics and journalism does NOT necessarily mean that Trump "didn't win"

2018-07-17 13:51:03 UTC

well the racial part at least

2018-07-17 13:51:27 UTC

apparently Trump and Putin have come to some agreements on Syria

2018-07-17 13:51:29 UTC

playing up the players who dissent against putin is a good way to get them shot too

2018-07-17 13:51:49 UTC

@Grenade123 But there's no oposition.

2018-07-17 13:52:01 UTC

The government is putin, and putin is the government.

2018-07-17 13:52:05 UTC

My guess is that it will involve russia keeping iran under control

2018-07-17 13:52:08 UTC

sure there is, although they usually end up in jail

2018-07-17 13:52:14 UTC

Information was revealed. Emails were released. No votes were hacked.

2018-07-17 13:52:21 UTC

Or dead.

2018-07-17 13:52:39 UTC

and if you don't let the state cover it up?

2018-07-17 13:52:44 UTC

The truth to these emails were never questioned

2018-07-17 13:52:47 UTC

the 2 playboy models who went against him didnt end up in jail

2018-07-17 13:52:54 UTC

There's no public sphere to tell the population "truths"

2018-07-17 13:53:00 UTC

i just hate how the medials been playing up that russian bots were trolls... like yo way to redefine troll

2018-07-17 13:53:22 UTC

we got enough trolls on the internet to not classify bots as trolls

2018-07-17 13:54:15 UTC

yeah, its not as easy. you have to do things the old fashion way for actually telling people

2018-07-17 13:54:28 UTC

not put it up on social media and let a bunch of idiots run with it

2018-07-17 13:55:11 UTC

but you still think America just said "fuck it, its too hard" to fuck with russia's stability ?

2018-07-17 13:55:12 UTC

I mean, if you believe the release of information nullifies an election, then I can see how that release means that 'trump didn't win'

2018-07-17 13:55:37 UTC

you think we are somehow that much better than russia?

2018-07-17 13:56:21 UTC

lets face it, you can't name 1 country who behaves better than any other of its side when it comes to fucking with foreign powers.

2018-07-17 13:57:40 UTC

well obviousley trudump here in canadia is the best at foreign relations!! CANADA MASTER RACE

2018-07-17 13:57:50 UTC

/SARCASM

2018-07-17 13:57:59 UTC

its pretty much how any government keeps its power, make another country of equal size the big bad bogeyman while at the same time trying to keep that country too busy not falling apart to be an actual threat.

2018-07-17 13:58:53 UTC

its also how lazy most countries have gotten these days "why bother putting all this effort into an invasion when we can just get them to fight themselves, then just roll in uncontested"

2018-07-17 14:01:04 UTC

lol yeah i mean the military at this point is being used like nukes in relation to bigger countries ala MAD style

2018-07-17 14:01:55 UTC

proxy wars is where its at, the US after 'Namm got a hard on for doing it that way ๐Ÿ˜›

2018-07-17 14:02:14 UTC

"WE GOT FUCKED ONCE, WE AINT LETTING THAT HAPPEN AGAIN"

2018-07-17 14:02:15 UTC

and Russia got a hard on for it before then

2018-07-17 14:02:28 UTC

i dont get how people could not think civil war is guna happen

2018-07-17 14:02:36 UTC

@Deleted User ((TimePool)) is ((objective)).

2018-07-17 14:02:43 UTC

trump gets removed, mass protests

2018-07-17 14:02:46 UTC

trump doesnt get removed

2018-07-17 14:02:48 UTC

mass protests

2018-07-17 14:02:48 UTC

@Timcast because one side would have most of the guns

2018-07-17 14:02:57 UTC

and the other side doesn't want anyone having guns

2018-07-17 14:03:02 UTC

thats not related

2018-07-17 14:03:10 UTC

it doesnt matter

2018-07-17 14:03:17 UTC

I think it might happen but not guaranteed yet.

2018-07-17 14:03:23 UTC

the left will use insurgency

2018-07-17 14:03:25 UTC

XD lol tbh in this culture even if hillary wouldve been elected i dont see how there wouldn't still have been protests

2018-07-17 14:03:25 UTC

idk, antifa seems to run pretty quick when the cops show up with just pepper stray

2018-07-17 14:03:28 UTC

and sabotage

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