People are fucking pathetic, holy shit.

Company after company falls because the people spending money are rarely on the left.

Social pressure has been used as a weapon, too

They keep winning because their mobs are so effective.

You people dare to tell me I can't be better than you?

When you cave to social pressure?

Eat shit.

We keep making excuses why our company or this and that prevents us from speaking out. I myself am sitting here with this stupid bird avatar.

Chill

Pfft, I don't even cave to Scribblehatch pressure. what are you talking about?

HMMMMMMMMMMM WONDER WHAT THE EU IS HIDING

And all I hear is why having some backbone is supposedly just like forming a social justice mob.

I wage verbal war on Facebook in open sight.

The reason we're behind avatars is because our identity is none of anyone's fucking business.

@Undead Mockingbird who are you arguing with?

I don't use psudeonyms everywhere.

I don't know why businesses list names of their employees like that.

@Undead Mockingbird Because how its done is just as important as what the end goal is.

@Scribblehatch if you have no leverage against a company and someone else does, they determine the PR slant of that company

because companies just want to market their shit and make cash

Yes, companies are often pathetic swine.

I don't, however, have a list of the companies I work for up there.

News to me.

I don't care who I am arguing "with". I am arguing against and for ideas. And the idea I was arguing for is that we need to show more solidarity in standing up for our principles.

Slant is a racist term pls use the word diagnol instead

And that has been repeatedly strawmanned into the equivalent of an SJW mob.

Ok ya slants ?

lol

Lol

It's cool. You can say Slants now.

Oki thank you for protek that word

LOL

Well, anyway. Looks like this has fizzled out.

We got what you were saying

Nah, @Undead Mockingbird we got you.

There's just not a lot that can be said on the matter further than what we said.

Solidarity in public: How should we do so and what happens if the issue is our fault?

You said we should collectivize and the collective said naaah.

@Undead Mockingbird I asked you what you meant by solidarity in public and you went on a rant

Ah, so answering you is a rant now?

Isn't it sorta.. obvious.

Because perspectives range from "The systems in place are at fault!" and "You're an asshole, fuck off!"

What solidarity in public means.

I asked who you were responding to and you said no one in particular

"What do you mean, murdered with a blade?"

when you got mad at me over something not directed at you

I don't think you got it at all. You still equate solidarity with another form of collectivism.

There is a difference between identity politics and solidarity around a set of principles.

It... sort of is?

Guys don't you think atheism is just another form of theism in itself?!

Guys don't you think penguin fly in their own way?

no, I'm asking what you equate it with

Depends on the specifics.

Scientists are not a collective, even though they rally around a shared set of declared principles.

No @Undead Mockingbird I get what you mean. But you still have to deal with the "man covered in shit" argument.

Guys don't you think plants ARE animals?

omg ...

Lol, scrib, Atheism CAN be essentially a theism. I'll take that one.

lolwut

The a in atheism means "lack"

@Undead Mockingbird wrt the peterson example specifically, what do you do if the rest of the people you're depending on for solidarity are the opposition?

Sure

I think this conversation actually shows very clearly why left wing mobs are so effective.

If someone is being theistic, they've fallen outside the definition.

Peterson did not and does not have support within major academic circles

A dart that doesn't hit the board doesn't score any points.

We have such a skewed idea of solidarity and shared principles that we are completely atomized in public.

Always with the back against the wall.

were it not for Streisand Effect, Peterson would be screwed

@Undead Mockingbird There are things I agree with you on and things I don't. I will cheer for the stuff I agree with and call you out for the stuff I don't. That's called being honest.

You may choose a ready guide in some celestial voice.
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.
You can choose from phantom fears, kindness, and to kill.
I will choose the path that's clear, I will choose free will.

But when you proselytize it, it starts to resemble a religion pretty effectively.

Rush.

Nice.

Justice prevails eventually.

Ive unsubscribed to vee a few days ago

I love that song.

The truth pays, but it pays like the lottery.

I think sargon is next

Contro, shut the fuck up. 9_9

You're a jimbot.

Wow. One straw man after another. When did I say any of that?

You don't follow Sargon.

I am

You sockpuppet as a soured supporter.

oh lawd

"Duuuude. Sargoooon. I used to like you maaan"

scribbles arguing with someone again

@Undead Mockingbird where did you say what?

Contro I've seen your fucking comments.

So

You hatefollow Sargon. You do not follow him for real.

Stop lying.

Then unsub don't go looking for attention on here lol

Its true now probs

I am starting to think that if you do not live on a remote mountain top, hunting squirrels in the wilderness, you are a damn SJW collectivist.

I've SEEN your youtube comments.