i wonder if i would do well

ok so nobody but the ukranian have ever been asked to serve

I signed up for the Army in time of war.

that and a german who went out of his way to avoid a silly 2 year mandatory service

ok thanks for that info

i didnt choose my birthyear

If you're in Germany, you have a similar imbalance. Much of the socialist state programs are financed with the taxes of men.

i don't care

so, no, i didnt do anything to avoid that

I was almost asked by the Spanish Crown to serve in the Spanish Army

Even in Europe, women work 10 hours less per week, on average, than men.

@Khanclansith so did I but I'm just interested in hearing who in the non, volunteer side actually had to serve in a manner that didn't involve consent

and specifically in a war

Even in Germany the men are the breadwinners

Add to this things such as maternity leave, a higher count of sick days, lower productivity, fields that involve more care ...

I dont think a draft is likely affecting many people right now but if things escalate into WW3 you can be certain men will be drafted

Yes, men will always be the breadwinners.

But people don't see it as clearly, because the money they hand to women is done through the indirection of the state.

I think its a terrible idea to have women work in care tbh.

It's an extra step, but men still finance women, absolutely.

And if things go bad and war breaks out, it will be primarily men dying.

hmmm

Men died for the vote - women cried for the vote.

the more authoretarian governments get, the less respect men get from women as they believe they are entitled to the mans extra work without relating with them

i can see this being true

because the state takes the place of the man

provides and protects

but the state is only able to do that by stealing from men

@Doshin tbh I think the complaint is dumb

@>Cytos, de lieve goede synth Well, that's in part due to the illusion women get of independence, because of the extra step of the state.

They think they are independent, but on the balance sheet, women are still financed by men.

It's also hilarious that feminists complain about the earnings/wage gap, because women do 80% of domestic spending.

They DO earn less than men, yet far outspend men.

Where do you think that money is coming from then?

i concur, the gender vs gender thing is BS

humans are human in a couple

I can't comprehend wanting a woman in combat.

we function differently, because we need to do a wide range of things to function, more then a single person can handle

Only the top 4% of women can compete with the average for men.

it depends on what

workplace sure

He means pay I'm sure

but men suck at being pregnant

Feminism is one of the biggest scams of the 20th century.

yeah women and men have different roles, but women are encroaching onto the male role and complaining that things arent equal in outcome

tony talk

@Doshin it won't matter in 15 years

Well, it's ironic, because meritocracy is actually the one system that would allow the few women who can compete to be free to do so.

Maybe 20

*walks up to random women on the street with a gang of men* “you owe us 130k each.”

yes lets do that

im in

But now, we have this anti-meritocracy movement going on, primarily from people who cannot compete.

“Perhaps I can pay you another way”

“Yeah, in civil service.”

@Undead Mockingbird kinda where you might expect it to come from

@Undead Mockingbird feminism started earlier than the 20th century. And it wasnt any better in the 1800s, either.

http://judgybitch.com/2016/08/16/reblog-research-find-that-as-a-group-only-men-pay-tax/

"BY THE END OF HER LIFE, THE AVERAGE WOMAN WILL HAVE A NEGATIVE FISCAL IMPACT OF $150,000"

hmmm ima dig with this a lil

Well, lets all stay at home and live from welfare to make things more equal. Am i feministing right?

If men wanted to stop feminism overnight, they would simply refuse to pay taxes.

Every social program would stop.

i think its fine for them to use that much tax money as long as they are doing their job and mothering

Feminism is financed by men.

@Doshin why is that their job?

There's a red pill for you.

I can't compare NZ to the US

We know that single mothers are bad for children

If we don’t all pay taxes, what’re they gonna do?

Send armed police

To all men?

Garnish wages

yea true dumb comment on my part

Most men are police

Most police are men*

"The fact that feminists want a stronger government is not a coincidence. While historically, women had to choose a wealthy husband for resources, they can now stay single, be lesbians, marry a poor man, or use the sperm bank, and the state will still transfer male taxes to them. Interestingly, within 10 years of women’s suffrage, the government doubled their tax revenue and expenditure in the USA."

I'm in CA and I've been considering the consequences if I went full no taxation without representation

@Doshin we dont even know how much worse or better single dads would do seen as thats rare and usualy under extraordinary circumstances...

because I'm pretty lolbertarian

If I had to lose the vote to end feminism, I would do it.

I usually vote republican now as long as they're not neocon bible thumpers

100%. Why not? I would get what I would have voted for anyway ...

and sometimes, honestly, even when they are.

Funnily enough, most people accept that mothers are important. They probably are to a degree, though it doesnt seem like we actualy have evidence for that

Hard evidence that is

i think the mother teaches the limits of compassion like the father teaches the limits of violence

Women can only raise children, they cannot raise adults. That's because they are more like children themselves.

if there is no mother the child becomes over compassionate and a pussy

just like without a father children become ultra violent

Tbh who cares if the human race dies out

Women get stuck at stage 3 of the Kohlberg Moral Hierarchy, which is care based, as opposed to stage 6 of the hierarchy, a justice based morality.

That is also part of why women advocate for equality of outcome.

So you're saying women are a force that opposes compassion? @Doshin you may be right seen how many of them can laugh about violence inflicted on espacialy men

Another issue is that they tend to be collectivist and have a higher degree of ingroup preference than men.

not against compassion

they are like the masters of compassino

im not so sure compassion is common in women tbh

they know when its stops being compassion and starts to suffocate

The more power women get, the more due process is also being deteriorated.

just like rough and tumble play is to teach the borders of play and fighting

I think it's a lie that women are compassionate.