You guys have gotten lost in your own arguments

That's also why the rate of false allegations, or the supposed rate, should not enter into due process.

It's also not necessarily true that it's a vastly lower rate fwiw

You're literally saying if man hard not rape.

If that was the case, we should get rid of trials in murder cases, because the rate of false convictions is so low.

But the legal definition of certain crimes has been slanted

Yes grant I am

https://youtu.be/jciTR2wvb1M

Doesn't matter if man retrained and force fed viagra hes hard so not rape.

unless they've been implanted with viagra

I doubt they're being raped

again

when has that ever happened

Or, as the crime rate changes, we would have to adjust due process. We just generate a random number, with percentages roughly equal to the false conviction rate, to decide if someone is guilty.

i literally linked an article

its just your wild hypothetical
and only in that hypothetical can you find something resembling rape

is that the only instance in which it would be considered rape?

i'd agree with you on that

You've been given multiple examples, including blatant instances of the things we're talking about

Also passed out man can get hard. is that still not rape?

OH, wow. Hoppe.

I am glad people are watching him.

Unsurprinsingly, the channel only has 1.7K subs, but at least it's on YT.

so if someone is rubbing themselves on a passed out man thats rape?

Rape is a state of mind.

sounds like sexual assault

I think the person that initially turned me away from the "left" was Thomas Sowell.

I'd say he pulled the thread that eventually caused the whole sweater to unravel.

>rubbing
You were given a clear example

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Oh, we're back to rape.

Rubbing?

Beeman stay focused

Why are you guys chat raping me?

Did you ask for my consent before talking to me?

if tru SJW ARE FUCKING IN THIS SHIT DEEP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq-HTglRTF8

You ignored the example @grant made

My consent has to be enthusiastic and ongoing. So please ask me before each message.

what example ? we were talking about rubbing

No

😦

You changed the subject lol

scroll up beeman

scroll up

Yes

He's clearly not talking about rubbing

"Also passed out man can get hard. is that still not rape?"

>a man would need viagra or he'd need to want it
>a passed out man can get hard
>is rubbing on him rape?
Dishonesty

That Quartering video is interesting.

I have friends at Amazon, Google, and Microsoft. They all say roughly the same.

is this guy out of it or what

That's true. Men can even get hard when unconscious.

How can any man seriously believe that you have to want sex to get hard, like do you even have a dick?

Do hard dicks not want sex?

Actually ... now that you put it that way ...

My dick doesn't have a mind

Dick wakes up before I do.

when i think of all the awkward boners i couldn't get rid of

Yeah, erection is a pretty bad measurement for consent.

Is our biology separate from our consciousness?

Or enjoyment, or whatever.

That's a bad argument.

Your body isn't completely under your command, no

There are many processes we are only partially in control of.

If our biology is not separate from our consciousness than what our biology wants is what we want

That's getting too hyperbolic for me.

Yes. Our consciousness isn't separate from our biology, but our biology is separate from our consciousness.

According to Thomas Jefferson 2.0 Brock Turners crime was not getting the girl off

Okay, you keep going. I don't want to gang up on him.

Women get wet during rape, does that mean it is impossible to rape a woman?

or make him feel like that's what we're doing

because that would be rape

Is personal choice not separate from impulses to you?

Only if it's legitimate rape.

It seems very grey

Women's bodies have a way of shutting that process down.

Unconscious thought is voluntary.

A doctor told me once.

@grant wait was that a strawman

Sorry, I had to rip on Republicans from time to time, too.

get outta here

Nah, it's all fine, as long as we are attacking ideas, not people.

I dont think there is a full equivalency between male and female rape
female rape is worse
90% of the time the man is having fun

How often have you been raped?

I dont know what the criteria is anymore

Asspulled statistic

Not knowing is a good place to start, actually.

Am I making you hot under the bonnet with my words beeman

I don't really know anymore, either.

It's become rather murky, all of it.

No you're just failing to make a proper argument, repeatedly

Too murky to lock someone up over for 20 years.

Yeah youre sizzling

Thomas Jefferson 2.0 do you have a penis?

I think Brett is guilty and should get life

DID YOU JUST ASSUME THEIR GENDER?!

rubbing yourself on the opposite sex is rape

"Lol ur mad"
0 arguments lol

Wait, are you serious about Brett?

All just strawmen and bait. GGs