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2018-07-14 01:35:06 UTC

YouTube video that I posted it's an example of profiling leading to wrong license plates leads to shooting

2018-07-14 01:35:11 UTC

Like India is doing gangbusters right now on the tech end

2018-07-14 01:37:05 UTC

@Beemann the 1st world has more technology and more public services so they can't be exploited, the 3rd world however are an easy target for big businesses backed up by state. The 1st world would benefit and the 3rd world would suffer. Even if they don't want them to suffer, that's how the capitalist system works.

2018-07-14 01:38:07 UTC

How are they suffering if it's bolstering their development, as it is with India?

2018-07-14 01:39:25 UTC

i never said that developed nations cant be exploited, i just said most aren't and the 3rd world is an easier target

2018-07-14 01:40:17 UTC

like Ukraine for example, it had a choice of being exploited by the EU or Russia and the chose the EU because they had no other options

2018-07-14 01:40:40 UTC

How is the EU exploiting Ukraine?

2018-07-14 01:40:55 UTC

through their neoliberal free markets

2018-07-14 01:41:05 UTC

Especially compared to to, you know, the USSR, which starved millions of them to death

2018-07-14 01:41:16 UTC

no they didn't

2018-07-14 01:41:19 UTC

Okay but that's a vague answer

2018-07-14 01:41:45 UTC

ever since the USSR fell Ukraine hasn't recovered from its economy

2018-07-14 01:42:04 UTC

You're denying the Holodomor?

2018-07-14 01:42:10 UTC

no

2018-07-14 01:42:35 UTC

the holodomor was a natural famine but the kulaks worsened it by burning all the crops

2018-07-14 01:42:45 UTC

No, you are denying the Holodomor

2018-07-14 01:43:15 UTC

the kulaks did this to sabotage the ussr when they didn't want to collectivise, and im not denying a natural famine

2018-07-14 01:43:28 UTC

You are denying a man made famine

2018-07-14 01:43:33 UTC

Which is what the Holodomor was

2018-07-14 01:43:37 UTC

it wasn't man made lol

2018-07-14 01:43:52 UTC

i just explained to you how it wasn't but you ignore me

2018-07-14 01:43:59 UTC

It's the equivalent of saying "I'm not denying the holocaust, they just all died of disease lol"

2018-07-14 01:44:24 UTC

okay why would the ussr start a famine?

2018-07-14 01:44:30 UTC

why would they

2018-07-14 01:44:37 UTC

just think for a minute

2018-07-14 01:44:42 UTC

To subjugate the population

2018-07-14 01:44:44 UTC

Which they did

2018-07-14 01:45:02 UTC

A significant portion of the Ukrainian population is at least partially Russian

2018-07-14 01:45:15 UTC

I've talked *to* Ukrainians

2018-07-14 01:45:19 UTC

did the usa starve their population because loyalists were still a thing

2018-07-14 01:45:27 UTC

of course not

2018-07-14 01:45:33 UTC

What?

2018-07-14 01:45:54 UTC

did the usa starve their people because loyalists resisted them?

2018-07-14 01:46:18 UTC

First of all, that has no bearing on whether or not the Holodomor happened

2018-07-14 01:46:29 UTC

Second of all, I've seen no evidence that this is the case

2018-07-14 01:46:50 UTC

third of all just think why would a country starve its own people

2018-07-14 01:46:59 UTC

you sound crazy

2018-07-14 01:47:38 UTC

this is what the western media puts in peoples heads i guess

2018-07-14 01:47:40 UTC

Why would a country execute its own people, or put them in Gulags

2018-07-14 01:47:50 UTC

Lol, it really is leftie George

2018-07-14 01:47:58 UTC

why would a country use mass suicidal tactics in warfare?

2018-07-14 01:48:17 UTC

If you're not shitposting here, I'd like to introduce you to a Nazi. You'd have a grand time

2018-07-14 01:48:19 UTC

`because they have way more people than they need, and they don't care how many die`

2018-07-14 01:49:26 UTC

@Beemann i already explained to you that they were trials and second the tsar used the gulag system before the bolsheviks came to power

2018-07-14 01:50:19 UTC

i can send you to a server that can answer some of your questions on the ussr

2018-07-14 01:50:53 UTC

> the kulaks did this to sabotage the ussr when they didn't want to collectivise, and im not denying a natural famine

Oh I didn't realize an apologist for my family's murderers was in the channel

2018-07-14 01:51:14 UTC

why would i apologise the kulaks?

2018-07-14 01:51:21 UTC

thats disgusting

2018-07-14 01:51:55 UTC

glad you agree my grandma deserved to die

2018-07-14 01:52:01 UTC

fucking commie

2018-07-14 01:52:12 UTC

was your grandma a kulak?

2018-07-14 01:52:32 UTC

hello! are we having a lovely time?

2018-07-14 01:55:58 UTC

Wew

2018-07-14 01:56:18 UTC

can we all agree that communism is disgusting?

2018-07-14 01:56:27 UTC

You realize commies deemed anyone they didnt like a kulak back then right ?

2018-07-14 01:56:40 UTC

no

2018-07-14 01:56:45 UTC

it was fascist lol

2018-07-14 01:57:19 UTC

what? comunitism is bad?

2018-07-14 01:57:25 UTC

At least the czecoslovakian commies did that

2018-07-14 01:57:26 UTC

i just want to be fwend

2018-07-14 01:57:38 UTC

cmon fwend lets build the sand castle together!

2018-07-14 01:57:41 UTC

Later they kept fighting each other tho

2018-07-14 01:57:45 UTC

you get all the sand then i will place

2018-07-14 01:58:08 UTC

you get resource, i make art. ok? you cant? well ill get someone else who will buh bye

2018-07-14 01:58:41 UTC

Remember when journos weren't told the Siberian school they visited was for children of political prisoners?

2018-07-14 01:58:53 UTC

cite it

2018-07-14 02:00:00 UTC

absolutely abhorrent

2018-07-14 02:03:25 UTC
2018-07-14 02:06:28 UTC

how do people unironically believe in communism?

2018-07-14 02:06:44 UTC

Communism isnt inherently bad, but the system requires competent/noncorrupt people in every level of administration in order to work effectively. Naturally, that is impossible because there's always people who are idiots/greedy. https://sofrep.com/70166/nazino-affair-russias-cannibal-island/ Poor planning resulted in cannibalism within 11 days of this island penal colony for political prisoners

2018-07-14 02:12:31 UTC

No, communism is totally inherently bad

2018-07-14 02:12:59 UTC

"Communism isnt inherently bad"
A system that doesn't work in any form of practice is pretty bad. The level of competence you are asking for is not attainable.

2018-07-14 02:13:00 UTC

An imperfect being can only create imperfect systems

2018-07-14 02:13:12 UTC

The only way it can continue is through subjugation of all dissenters

2018-07-14 02:13:23 UTC

Nobody out there, can be trusted with that much power

2018-07-14 02:14:18 UTC

Problem is, "inherently bad/good" is a very subjective statement

2018-07-14 02:14:40 UTC

Some people see it as a way to ensure everyone has a share of the bounties of the whole.

2018-07-14 02:14:55 UTC

Some see it as a way for the weak to leech of the strong

2018-07-14 02:15:21 UTC

Oddly, the first scenario has already been accomplished without communism

2018-07-14 02:15:22 UTC

Personally, I thought of the second statement first during the Thai riots.

2018-07-14 02:15:31 UTC

Funny how that works

2018-07-14 02:15:41 UTC

And now I think the same when I saw that vid on democrat states.

2018-07-14 02:16:10 UTC

Ensure everyone has a share of the bounties.

2018-07-14 02:16:31 UTC

Yes

2018-07-14 02:16:37 UTC

Yeah, people benefit from tech innovations

2018-07-14 02:16:37 UTC

Not an equal share, but a share

2018-07-14 02:16:55 UTC

The poorest in the US live better than the average in 3rd world countries.

2018-07-14 02:17:34 UTC

And to think, no American Gulag Archipelago yet

2018-07-14 02:18:10 UTC

Scratch that though, we need to advocate a system that calls for the violent redistribution of resources

2018-07-14 02:18:55 UTC

Exactly.

2018-07-14 02:19:01 UTC

If your own government employees defect and shittalk you it means you've done a good job :^)

2018-07-14 02:19:10 UTC

Also, the high concentration of power in the few

2018-07-14 02:19:49 UTC

The US hated that so much that they fought a bloody war, and created the constitution's most iconic line based on having firearms to prevent a tyrannical govt.

2018-07-14 02:20:51 UTC

Yup

2018-07-14 02:25:20 UTC

Also, issue is, people see anything that is paid for with taxpayers money and say, see this is socialism, this is good.

2018-07-14 02:25:38 UTC

That shit is so annoying

2018-07-14 02:25:54 UTC

I got an idea

2018-07-14 02:26:01 UTC

Any coders in here?

2018-07-14 02:26:18 UTC

I shouldve rephrase that, communism isnt intended to suck

2018-07-14 02:26:19 UTC

Not a good one.

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