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2018-09-08 05:55:30 UTC

just added another embed to the pretty editor

2018-09-08 05:55:50 UTC

Thatโ€™s highly racy buddy

2018-09-08 05:56:07 UTC

what

2018-09-08 10:18:26 UTC

Update on the UK censorship thing: Been doing more snooping- not sure if it's government-enforced but Google is automatically turning safesearch on against user preferences, and you have to log into your Google+ to turn it off

2018-09-08 10:29:52 UTC

Stop using google.

2018-09-08 10:30:09 UTC

What do you recommend?

2018-09-08 10:30:45 UTC

I personally use DuckDuckGo.

2018-09-08 10:32:22 UTC

umm how would it remember your preferences if you havent yet logged in ๐Ÿ˜›

2018-09-08 10:32:56 UTC

They save to the browser otherwise there would be no point in opening settings if you weren't signed in

2018-09-08 10:47:53 UTC

if youre talking about google setting, they can be saved temporarily until your session ends

2018-09-08 10:48:23 UTC

They don't automatically reset. Or at least haven't for the past six years

2018-09-08 11:09:22 UTC

elon taking one mild hit of a blunt(despite proclaiming his lack of effection for marijauna) is like the first version of the left having a 'get woke go broke' sort of situation in a while... by that i mena

2018-09-08 11:10:56 UTC

mean*, i doubt his company will actually suffer in in the long run, and at best, unlike the thai-diver-pedophile accusation this will actually work against him. (it isn't a logical reaction) The 'woke' going broke here being more conservative values.

2018-09-08 11:12:14 UTC

its a situation where its obvious that old sticklers are being old sticklers, but its become so common to blame 'hippies' rather then 'good ol boys' that this is one of the few cases where those more related to the hippie element are in the right

2018-09-08 11:14:42 UTC

its one of the few things i've seen in nearly a decade where the authoritarian side of right wing views rears its head, in this era of such being dominated by the popularized (told by media) authoritarian defacto being on the left

2018-09-08 11:14:45 UTC

small beans

2018-09-08 11:17:55 UTC

Elon is a demon

2018-09-08 11:18:02 UTC

Hellfire made flesh.

2018-09-08 11:18:14 UTC

Im watching "who is america" ... its hard to believe some of it isnt scripted ๐Ÿ˜›

2018-09-08 11:29:42 UTC

Muh net neutrality is not necessary

2018-09-08 11:29:45 UTC

๐Ÿ˜

2018-09-08 11:42:11 UTC

tbf

2018-09-08 11:43:23 UTC

what happened with fcc was immoral and disgusting, but its a improvement over the status qou set pre obama

2018-09-08 11:45:10 UTC

doesnt make it right but if not for small ground gained there is serious reason to believe itd be far worse now

2018-09-08 11:46:23 UTC

fight tooth and nail to get it back where it was but we were already heading down darker paths

2018-09-08 11:53:19 UTC

Didn't they throttle netflix before?

2018-09-08 11:56:01 UTC

Well they sure are throtling it now

2018-09-08 11:56:14 UTC

Who's they specifically?

2018-09-08 11:56:51 UTC

According to that university study

2018-09-08 11:56:57 UTC

All of the providers

2018-09-08 11:57:03 UTC

To a different degree

2018-09-08 11:57:04 UTC

... All?

2018-09-08 11:57:21 UTC

Thats what the study says according to the reports

2018-09-08 11:58:02 UTC

All four of the big mobile carriers in the US restrict mobile video streaming to 480p by default unless paying extra for plans allowing HD streams. This isnโ€™t new information, but the study details how often traffic is being throttled and for which services.

Data was collected from around 100,000 people who were asked to download a mobile app called Wehe which monitored network traffic for โ€œdifferentiationโ€ when using apps. Around 500,000 tests were conducted across 2,000 service providers in 161 countries.

2018-09-08 11:58:22 UTC

Verizon and AT&T were found to be throttling usersโ€™ data the most, by far. Respectively, the providers โ€œdifferentiatedโ€ streaming video speeds 11,100 and 8,398 times. T-Mobile throttled 3,900 times, while Sprint was found the least with just 339 occurrences.

2018-09-08 11:58:58 UTC

YouTube is the number one target of throttling, followed by Prime Video, Netflix, Spotify, Skype, NBC Sports, and Vimeo.

2018-09-08 11:59:21 UTC

Isn't it more expensive for them if they don't throttle netflix?

2018-09-08 11:59:41 UTC

Like, netflix will drain the hose the fastest.

2018-09-08 12:00:14 UTC

It depends on what kind of plan you have

2018-09-08 12:00:53 UTC

Most plans in europe no longer have the upper data limits

2018-09-08 12:01:04 UTC

At least in my country

2018-09-08 12:01:18 UTC

You just pay for speed of the connection

2018-09-08 12:01:22 UTC

weve never had data limits here

2018-09-08 12:01:32 UTC

We used to have them

2018-09-08 12:01:33 UTC

apart from mobile

2018-09-08 12:01:47 UTC

You would get lets say 5 gb of normal speed

2018-09-08 12:02:05 UTC

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2018-09-08 12:02:06 UTC

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2018-09-08 12:02:11 UTC

And after tou breach it they would slow it down for the rest of the month

2018-09-08 12:02:25 UTC

most "unlimited" plans here in the states don't have a data limit, just a limit of how much data you can use before being throttled

2018-09-08 12:02:51 UTC

So yeah its the thing we used to have

2018-09-08 12:03:05 UTC

You have it fast until you breach the limit

2018-09-08 12:03:05 UTC

I used to get quarterly reports of how much data I dl'd ๐Ÿ˜› it was in the hundreds of terabytes ๐Ÿ˜›

2018-09-08 12:03:12 UTC

Lel

2018-09-08 12:03:56 UTC

No no no.

2018-09-08 12:04:12 UTC

Think about it in terms of sheer energy consumption

2018-09-08 12:04:23 UTC

Doesn't Netflix take the most out per person

2018-09-08 12:04:29 UTC

thats not the problem with data

2018-09-08 12:04:32 UTC

Why ?

2018-09-08 12:04:37 UTC

the problem is not all packets are created equally

2018-09-08 12:04:49 UTC

Created EQUALITY

2018-09-08 12:04:50 UTC

streaming data takes up much more of the pipeline than like a webpage

2018-09-08 12:04:56 UTC

haha point and laugh at grenade and his typos

2018-09-08 12:05:18 UTC

Well i know nothing about that

2018-09-08 12:05:46 UTC

So basically tou are saying streams stress the line more then downloading of data ?

2018-09-08 12:05:52 UTC

yes

2018-09-08 12:06:29 UTC

Well till now nobody ever made any difference as far as i know

2018-09-08 12:06:34 UTC

i work for an ultrasonics company. We make equipment for testing rails, pipes, gas cylinders.

2018-09-08 12:07:16 UTC

But maybe you us ppl are about to get "traffic manged" experience

2018-09-08 12:07:39 UTC

the information from the transducers (the things that make noise then listen for the eco) has to get sent from the cards controlling those to a pc that then doesn't some computation on that data to determine if there is something important.

2018-09-08 12:07:50 UTC

that is all done via network cables.

2018-09-08 12:08:05 UTC

there are several places of limitations for how much we can send at a given speed.

2018-09-08 12:08:29 UTC

both the lines and the Ethernet ports have a max transfer rate.

2018-09-08 12:08:40 UTC

we have 3 kinds of data that can be sent

2018-09-08 12:08:50 UTC

basically raw, then filter 1, and filter 2

2018-09-08 12:09:36 UTC

we can send a lot less raw data packets through per second than filter 1 or filter 2.

2018-09-08 12:09:57 UTC

raw is kinda like video streaming, filter 1 like audio, filter 2 basic text and webpage stuff.

2018-09-08 12:10:39 UTC

each packet for a video stream contains so much data that like 2 people can take up all the bandwidth allotted for 10 people, cause the other 8 to take forever for their webpages to load

2018-09-08 12:11:46 UTC

this is generally why most video followed by audio services are throttled. Its not to make them unequal, its to keep everyone's overall speed the same.

2018-09-08 12:12:13 UTC

so you will get 1 video packet in the same time it takes your friend to get 10 website packets

2018-09-08 12:12:24 UTC

because the overall data used ends up being the same for both

2018-09-08 12:13:19 UTC

now, they probably pick and choose at times, but this generally why its important to avoid discriminating on packets received rather than data received over minutes.

2018-09-08 12:13:26 UTC

Yeah if that would be so it would be good but according to the authors of that study now the data are not same

2018-09-08 12:13:49 UTC

Well they also say the study was not peer reviewed yet

2018-09-08 12:14:00 UTC

what do they count as "data" and over what period of time.

2018-09-08 12:14:01 UTC

So it might be best to w8 for that too

2018-09-08 12:14:07 UTC

Idk

2018-09-08 12:14:22 UTC

Try download it from somewhere

2018-09-08 12:14:27 UTC

data could be packets received, not total size of packets received.

2018-09-08 12:14:28 UTC

And you decide

2018-09-08 12:14:46 UTC

the latter is more important than the latter.

2018-09-08 12:15:23 UTC

it might take your video longer to load, but your video is a gig of data where as you'd need to visit like 100 webpages to reach that same size in that time period

2018-09-08 12:16:22 UTC

if you ever had a capped data limit, you know you the amount of data downloaded from a video eats up your data 100 times faster than just using discord for that same amount of time.

2018-09-08 12:17:07 UTC

Yep

2018-09-08 12:17:25 UTC

Same for games

2018-09-08 12:17:39 UTC

Youtube eats a lot of data

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