Military does have a habit of abandoning stuff when withdrawing fast.

Vehicles, weapons, computers, etc, etc...

That's kinda ideal, but I'm not sure you could be assured you'd find something like that. And alot of those places aren't really suitable anyways from what I've seen.

The military will usually center around command.

Your best bet is the rain will wipe away most of the radiation

Yes, but there would be a reason they would run.

Where I live, there is a nuclear bunker, military base, and compounds.

And desertion would probably be high, with alot of deserters hoarding military supplies.

Not to mention there is power plant nearby that could be restored if needed.

It depends on the situation

I wouldn't count too much on power plants.

Stillwater will not be hit, because it isn't important in sense. Most nuclear missile bases will be, but the rest of the areas will be abandon and not hit probably.

The military have plans for nuclear disaster and trained accordingly for 60 years

We will mostly suffer nuclear fallout to be honest.

You would need the supplies to run the generators and the technical expertise to operate and repair the facilities.

That is why I said community is the best.

Wide range of expertise.

Since this stuff is located in Stillwater and community be from Stillwater, I think we will be lucky to have all expertise needed.

Well that will be hard

Stillwater isn't that big of city.

I can cross Stillwater in 5 minutes.

If you're in semi-rural OK, you're probably already in good shape on that alone.

Semi-rural area, yes I am.

Generally, the people with advanced experience in engineering and tech lives in city, and we all know city gonna get fucked in a nuclear exchange

The stuff you'd have to worry about is the flood of refugees, the stability of community supplies and the stuff the city already imports.

Reason I said beefing up security.

I'd actually wager advanced engineering wouldn't really matter for immediate survival.

Checkpoints, etc, etc...

Not really, america is a net export of food

Africa will starve without us

There's stuff stillwater is almost certainly importing. I'm guessing it imports ammunition for example.

Actually Africa will probably be fine.

That is why I said Ammunition bench.

Basically reloading bench.

In a global nuclear exchange Africa would likely inherit the earth.

There's no really valuable targets there (yet) and they'd probably be left alone.

And then they've got the population and resources.

Unless there is a resource war.

Then AFrica would be focal point of conflict.

How much can you salvage on reloading benches though?

Don't you still need slugs and explosive?

Mostly the brass rounds.

I doubt we will have much need for explosives.

Only in the most dire situations.

Would your community accept annexation from the eventual reorganization of the US government?

If I was leader, yes.

@Dusty Morgan When I said explosive I really meant primer for the rounds.

As long as we can dictate our own rules.

That wouldn't be the case.

Oh... primers.

The government would likely be dictatorial or military in nature.

Well that is why I would ask for retired military personal if there is any.

Well for the safety of my people, I would probably surrunder.

You need saltpeter to make more gunpowder

Gunpowder =/= black powder

Military would be strong enough to wipe us out, a small city like Stillater.

Stillwater.

So I would just surrender instead of sending the survivors to death.

I would ask if I could keep leading Stillwater to keep rebuilding.

That's actually the trick isn't it.

I would try to convince them, keeping me in leadership would be benefitial to them.

You would presumably be forging relationships with other surviving cities.

Gunpowder literally is black powder dude. You're thinking of smokeless powder

Yeah that is what I think would be a good idea Pratel.

Modern primer is usually a high explosive miss.

WE are already on a different subject Missdanger.

I assumed you meant modern gunpowder, didn't think you were talking about muskets and early cowboy guns

Talking about Forging relationships and dealing with the remaining Untied States Military.

This chat is going 2fast4me

I would try my best to rebuild to the best I can. Forging relationships with surviving cities and establish some kind of government from what is left over.

Try to rebuild, basically that is what I would be aiming for.

Rebuilding.

I actually think you'd see the fragmentation of governments.

really though potassium nitrate isn't too hard to manufacture from urine

No doubt.

That will be the tricky part.

Getting people to come together as one.

Alot of the real arguments would be all the people claiming to be the true government with no representatives actually present.

I think the best way is to position my city in a position of dominance.

Aka Better at everything.

Then negotiate.

Fair deals and trade, then combining government.

Communities along rivers would be trading hubs

With central mayors of city dealing with issues.

Easier transport

I can see that Missdanger, but would the water be radiated?

I don't think you get a choice.

That is why I didn't say collecting from rivers, I said collecting from rain water in my guide.

You're limited by the resources you have available.

Some places will have more and others less.

And there would be power conflicts.

Oklahoma gets so much rain...

It isn't funny.

As long as we have water filtrations and water reservoir storage underground, I think we could survive.

Yo send some of that rain to the west coast, shits on fire for weeks now

Prefer underground bunker to be honest, due to tornadoes we get.

That why it would be important to clear top soil of the surrounding area.

Then bury the soil.

Use the rivers to transport goods

In the old mines.