Out of curiosity, what have you read Dillon? Not to diss or anything, just to get some impression.

The Cosmic Order defines everything in existence, its simply the rules of how everything IS. Thus it encompasses everything in both the Material and Immaterial Worlds (otherwise referred to by Evola as World and Superworld, the two halfs that make up Reality with the material world being a projection of the metaphysical world). So the Cosmic Order defines the laws of nature and the laws of the spiritual plane and everything within. So when we talk about the Laws of Nature we still refer to something that is defined by the Cosmic Order.

Then we have Humanity which also adheres to the laws, or truths, of the cosmic order and thus to the truths of the material and immaterial worlds, meaning that there is a material/biological truth about humanity that is related to the Laws of Nature and there is also a spiritual/metaphysical truth about humanity, together they define the human condition (as the only entity that can achieve transcendence). This truth obviously affects all humans.

TL;DR There is such thing as truth, the state of natural being.

There not being a objective governing truth is a leftist lie

https://imgur.com/HyiwsTK

You might have heard National Socialists use the term "organic state", this is what we aim towards, a state built on natural order and universal truths that govern the world.

This literally makes no sense to me in the way it is presented. What defines a "truth" is it instinct? What are these cosmic orders? Like laws of physics and matter?

Remember what George Lincoln Rockwell said about defying nature's laws?

A man can jump off a building, and think he's beaten the governing laws of nature, until he hits the pavement.

Okay, maybe I should dial back the esotericism.

Okay, I can understand.

If we don't get into truths here.

I think Colin Jordan put it really well

I know I think a little differently here.

"National Socialism, properly understood, is nothing less than an orientation of the mind, the dominant impulse of which is to live life to the full, through the development of one's potentialities and the satisfaction of one's needs, under conditions of natural competition and selection, reconciled to cooperation, within the organised community of the folk."

I'll put it really simply, just as the laws of physics make things fall, so the truths and realities of biology govern the world, right?

Yeah.

This, I know.

National Socialism is, really simply, following those natural truths, laws and impulses as it was intended.

Okay.

This, very simply put, is truth. It is both spiritual, but scientifically quantifiable.

I can of course get into all that spiritual shit about truths and cosmic shit, but maybe later.

But if man is sentient and intelligent, can he not govern his own laws and impulses?

I don't really want to get into the weeds of that.

In National Socialism, man is subordinate to the truths and laws that govern this world, a man among animals. If white man followed his natural instincts, instead of the perversions peddled by the jew, we'd live in a healthy, organic, white society.

I can understand the truths to be simply understood as basic instinct and human nature, but instead I like to use the term right or wrong.

GLR's American National Socialism is really good NS 101 speech where he talks about his relation to laws of nature and the universe.

Yes, that's one way to put it.

But sometimes you gotta be more verbose than "its nature and sheeeit". But before you get into Esoteric Hitlerism and all that, read Mein Kampf. Its must read for any nationalist interested in serious politics.

Savitri Devi is the shit though

How old are you if you don't mind me asking, don't answer if it's 2honeypot

Lol 29

Shit, I'm still the youngest here, 23 🤔

Cool

I appreciate the help.

Of course, got a bit ahead of myself

I got a pack of introduction material just for you

http://ropeculture.org/2017/01/13/zero-tolerance/

This article puts very very simply what sets us apart from patriotards without getting into any of that Evola and Devi shit.

“The moment the plan’s creator attempts to consider so-called “convenience” and “reality” instead of absolute truth, his work will no longer be a star seeking humanity and will become nothing more than an everyday procedure.”

“[Man] must understand the fundamental law of necessity rules in Nature’s domain, and realize how completely his existence is subject to these laws of eternal battle and the struggle for dominance.”

-Adolf Hitler

National Socialism serves eternal laws. This requires acceptance of the eternal laws to unselfishly serve the community and the welfare of the German nation and to live according to the eternal laws of our blood as they are expressed in the National Socialist Worldview. This is where the party member seeks and finds the purpose of his existence ultimately expressed.

-The Responsibilities of Party Members (Official NSDAP Document)

“I realized that this new and wonderful doctrine of scientific truth applied ruthlessly to man himself, as well as to Nature and inanimate matter, and that it was the only thing which could save man from his own degradation in luxury, self-seeking short-sightedness and racial degeneration.”

“You either believe in the scientific method and the truth, and you apply it to yourself without egotism, otherwise you don’t believe in the scientific method and you’re kidding yourself.”

“Anyone so conceited and foolish as to be determined to flaunt Nature’s Laws may do so but only for a limited period of time. He cannot go on doing so indefinitely.”

“National Socialism is nothing more or less than NATURAL ORDER.”

“National Socialism, as a PHILOSOPHY, embodies the eternal urge found in all living things – indeed in all creation – toward a higher level of existence – toward perfection – toward God.“

- GLR

http://ropeculture.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/lies.png

I could basically quote the entire article, it's gold. Puts in very, very simple terms all that is essential almost.

This is 2esoteric, but I just wanna whore this for @MatthewHeimbach in the case he ever has to talk with ancaps again: http://ironmarch.org/index.php?/topic/6794-fascist-economics-and-socialism-of-duty/

Next time you'll verbally ravage Cantwell's NAP.

Esoteric kekism is what we need

Sorry Hitler is my god.

Or, rather, he whose avatar he was, The Man Against Time.

Have you gotten into esoteric hitlerism?

Once Dillon goes through all that Eternal Truth and Cosmic Order stuff he can start learning about Hitler's godhood.

I have read everything Devi has ever written plus some Serrano

I learned about it last night while watching a documentary on ruby ridge

What is it all about

It's complicated as you'd think, but I can give you a TL;DR. There's an absolutely terrific EH discord too

Tldr will work

Basically, Hitler was Vishnu's avatar sent to speed up the Kali Yuga, the age of darkness in which we live in, and the 10th avatar of Vishnu, Kalki, the Man Against Time, who will put an end to the age of darkness and the jews and renew the Cosmic Cycle. Just like Jesus, Hitler's sacrifice was a spiritual victory, for it was a necessary step in the cycle of renewal.

Interesting. Thanks for that

http://68.media.tumblr.com/8c7fed7765522deaba99f144a8d7b2eb/tumblr_od5e1m2tRk1vxr883o1_r2_500.png

Hitler showed mercy to those who were least deserving of it and, like Jesus, was destined to be betrayed.

“The fools scorn Me when I take on human form;
My essence, supreme source of beings, escapes them.”

—Bhagavad-Gita, 9, verse 2

Any books I should look into about it?

The Lightning and the Sun¨

It lays down the basics and puts WW2 in historical context, p much a must.

Thanks fam.

I gotta hit the hay. Good nite folks

". Savitri Devi saw the world as a cyclic succession from pristine perfection (or the Satya Yuga) to a period of chaos (or the Kali Yuga). The Ancients, though aware of technical progress, did not believe in progress as a whole. There was no simple progression from good to bad, but an endless, inevitable cycle from perfection to chaos, which then itself brought about a new age of perfection and truth once again. This cyclical evolution was inevitable and the only thing one could do was to wait for the One (whom the Hindus knew as Kalki, the tenth and final avatar of Vishnu), who would bring about this age of truth. Despite Savitri Devi identifying completely as a National Socialist, it might seem surprising that Hitler isn’t seen as the embodiment of the Kalki avatar. In fact, Hitler is seen as the penultimate avatar of Vishnu. His defeat in the Second World War proved that he was not the man who would deliver the world from the Dark Ages, but was the forerunner of the one who would achieve this feat. Hitler was a ‘Man against Time’, who was able, unlike the leaders of his time, to perceive the vision of the Golden Age that was yet to come. As a Man against Time, Hitler was intensely aware of everything that was wrong in the world around him and felt that it was his duty to destroy and change them in a radical way, and to build everything anew."

nite

This quote in particular from Reflections of an Aryan Woman stuck with me, for many reasons:

"[Satyananda Swami] held our Führer to be an “incarnation of Vishnu—the only one in the West”. I could, on this subject, multiply my recollections and recall, for example, the admirable Brahmin of Poona, Pandit Rajwadé, so versed in knowledge of the works of Nietzsche as if they were sacred texts (which he commented on, twice per week, in front of a narrow circle of disciples) and who professed deepest admiration for the “king chakravartin of Europe” come “to restore the true order” in a world adrift. I could also tell of another hardly ordinary man—less well-read perhaps, but gifted with a strange power of clairvoyance—whom I met at the beginning of the war in a friendly family, of which he was the guru or spiritual master. This sage said to me: “Your Führer can only be victorious because it is the Gods themselves who dictate his strategy to him. Every evening, he doubles himself and comes here to the Himalayas to receive their instructions.”

I wondered what Adolf Hitler would have thought of this unexpected explanation of the victories of the German army. I said to the holy man then: “It is, in this case, unquestionable that he will gain the war”.

“No,” he responded, “because there will come a time when his generals will reject his divine inspiration and will disobey him—will betray him.”

And he added: “It cannot be otherwise; if he is an Incarnation, he is not the supreme Incarnation—the last of this cycle”—Alas!"

@Kombat-Unit You summed up esoteric Hitlerism perfectly. You should teach a class on it. ⚡️🙂⚡️ I'd recommend to anyone, also, Serrano's "resurrection of the Hero" and "The Last Avatar", as well as anything you might find translated from Nimrod DeRosario's writing. All sane people were born feeling it on a visceral level, but I've found it best to hate the Jews at the cosmic level.

I commend your good taste, again.

🙋

Btw, have you read Arya Dharma: The Way of the Aryan? I haven't, and it kills me.

"It is in order to provide a systematic explanation of the world-view of the Arya Dharma tradition that we have now created the book "Arya Dharma: The Way of the Aryan". This work is designed to cover many of the basic aspects of our spiritual tradition. Every philosophical position and practice that is outlined in this book have their origination in the sacred Vedic scriptures. Many of the foundations of modern Arya Dharma are also supported directly by the writings of such 20th century National Socialist authors as Alfred Rosenberg, Adolf Hitler, Savitri Devi and Miguel Serrano; as well as guided by the research of contemporary White Vedic scholars and spiritual teachers."

So much want

http://dharmacivilization.com/2012/11/examination-abrahamism/

No, I haven't. Right now I'm reading Arctic Home in the Vedas by Bal Gangadhar Tilak

Oh man, I have this great interview with a Vedic Guru

You'll love it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctpo6l8zu_Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sgj5MdRFx4

I'll check. It out!! Off to bed now. Thanks for the info. I'm always searching for this kind of thing.

Always happy to share, there are never too many into Hitler and Vedic stuff. Nighty night

I don't mean to seem out of line or disrespectful, but is this some sort of Hinduism or something?

Esoteric Hitlerism

Well, I've never heard of a European named Savitri Devi or Dharma or Satyananda Swami.

Devi aka Maximine Portaz, Satyananda Swami was an Indian guru.

What do Indians have to do with Europe?

"“Hitler said, ‘Whoever thinks that National Socialism is only a political movement does not understand anything.’ National Socialism was always Hitlerism, and Hitlerism always had an esoteric foundation. At the end of the 1930’s and during the war years it was not possible or convenient that this theme be widely known. However, after the war and its apparent loss, there was no other way for Hitlerism than the esoteric development. For me, Esoteric Hitlerism is being possessed by the Archetype of the collective unconscious, which the Greeks used to call Gods — among them, Apollo, which really is Wotan for the Germans, and Vishnu or Shiva for the Hindus — and its development in the individual and collective souls of the actual Hitlerist warriors. That means a new/old religion, with all its rituals and myths that are necessary to discover, or rediscover. Its central Drama is the apparition on this earth of the Person Adolf Hitler, the last Avatar, who came to produce this enormous storm, or catastrophe, in order to awaken all those who are asleep, and to commence the New Age, which will come after the Deluge. That is the reason why we have started to count the years of this New Age beginning with the birth of Hitler.”

Savitri Devi was French. @White-PowerStroke(Dillon) This is a good introduction. https://youtu.be/eiZ7W4X9JCM

"The last incarnation of him-who-comes-back– the last Man Against Time has many names. Every great faith, every great culture, every true (living or obsolete) form of tradition as old as the fall of man has given him one.... the Christians behold him in Christ, present for the second time: no longer a meek preacher of love and forgiveness but the irresistible leader of the celestial white horsemen destined to put an end to this sinful world and establish a new heaven and a new earth. The Mohammedan world is awaiting him under the features of Mahdi, whom Allah shall send "at the end times", to crush all evil through the powers of his sword– "after the Jews will once more have become the masters of Jerusalem" and after "the Devil will have taught men to set even the air they breathe on fire." And the millions of Hindustan have called him from time immemorial and still call him Kalki, the last incarnation of the world-sustaining power: Vishnu; the one who will, in the interest of life, put an end to this age of gloom and open a new succession of ages..."That last, great individual– an absolute harmonious blending of the sharpest of all opposites; equally sun and lightning– is the one whom the faithful of all religions and the bearers of practically all cultures await; the one of whom Adolf Hitler (knowingly or unknowingly) said in 1928: "I am not he; but while nobody comes forward to prepare the way for him, I do so."

Maybe read Mein Kampf before getting into the Lightning and the Sun though.

"His companions at arms will be the last National Socialists; the men of iron who will have victoriously stood the test of persecution and, what is more, the test of complete isolation in the midst of a dreary, indifferent world in which they have no place; who are facing that world and defying it through every gesture, every hint– every silence of theirs and, more and more (in the case of the younger ones) without even the personal memory of Adolf Hitler's great days to sustain them. They are the ones who will, one day, make good for all that Men Against Time have suffered in the course of history, like they themselves, for the sake of eternal truth: the avenging comrades whom the millions of 1945– the dying, the tortured, and the desperate survivors– called in vain; those whom all the vanquished fighters against time called in vain, in every phase of the great cosmic struggle without beginning, against the forces of disintegration, co-eternal with the forces of life.

http://ironmarch.org/index.php?/topic/6334-esoteric-hitlerism/&page=4#comment-174824

This contains a great EH 101

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/269222230783819778/269918754035597322/71fba90493bdb7ed04252e5e655dabd2.png

Okay, I really appreciate the assistance, but this stuff is a little too deep for me.

Yeah, that's what I said, get into the basic stuff first.

When I was getting into Nazism Savitri Devi was way over my head.

Then one day later once I had consumed a ton of NSDAP and IKL material, I read Kalki the Avenger and it all just clicked.

Anyway, always glad to help, now I'mma make myself some breakfast

DD and I have done our fair share of scaring away the newbies, huh Parrott

I'm not entirely comfortable.

I get it, it's all super esoteric. But once you realize that for thousands of years, aryans have advocated the same ideology, it all just clicks and you realize it's the Truth.

Everybody's welcoem to have their discussions and whatnot. Definitely fascinating stuff. But the official Party position is to leave folks to their own metaphysics and spiritual perspectives.

I need to dig up the interview, but in one interview National Socialism was explained to a Brahmin, and he reacted "Ah, Western dharma!"

Regardless of what one thinks of Savitri Devi's spiritual journey, her determination to stand by Hitler and his work against incredible pressure and odds remains an eternal inspiration.

I could quibble about how Hinduism is quite syncretic, with more pre-Aryan Dravidian influences and themes than many EH folks seem to admit, but there's no doubt that there's a solid contribution from our Aryan forefathers.

I'm Hg R1b1, so my direct paternal ancestors were the indigenous Old Europeans who were taken off guard by the charioteers.

EH isn't Hinduism, uuggghh, *groan*, daaa~aad

“Hitler said, ‘Whoever thinks that National Socialism is only a political movement does not understand anything.’ National Socialism was always Hitlerism, and Hitlerism always had an esoteric foundation. At the end of the 1930’s and during the war years it was not possible or convenient that this theme be widely known. However, after the war and its apparent loss, there was no other way for Hitlerism than the esoteric development. For me, Esoteric Hitlerism is being possessed by the Archetype of the collective unconscious, which the Greeks used to call Gods — among them, Apollo, which really is Wotan for the Germans, and Vishnu or Shiva for the Hindus — and its development in the individual and collective souls of the actual Hitlerist warriors. That means a new/old religion, with all its rituals and myths that are necessary to discover, or rediscover. Its central Drama is the apparition on this earth of the Person Adolf Hitler, the last Avatar, who came to produce this enormous storm, or catastrophe, in order to awaken all those who are asleep, and to commence the New Age, which will come after the Deluge. That is the reason why we have started to count the years of this New Age beginning with the birth of Hitler.”

Btw @My Name Is Hate would love the shit out of those vedic vids

EH isn't Hinduism, but EH definitely makes much of the Indo-European contributions to Hinduism.

At least Devi did.

Sure.

Personally, my understanding of Hitler is of a shrewd pragmatist who, while being very spiritual and transcendent in orientation, had relatively little patience for esoterica which didn't closely relate to action, vitality, and survival.

Similar to how I, as a Christian, break out in hives when TradTards carry on about not belonging to or engaging this "fallen world."

>Similar to how I, as a Christian, break out in hives when TradTards carry on about not belonging to or engaging this "fallen world."
🤔

Evola and the other esotericists were unreliable douchebags when the rubber hit the road, and Codreanu was ruthlessly stabbed in the back over and over again by clergy and nobiliy before his stated enemies ever got a shot at him.

Christians, Folk Traditionalists, and Perennialists all must suffer those who wish to transform their traditions into impotent death cults.

True.

Have you read much Devi Parrott?

Just The Lightning and the Sun and Impeachment of Man.

Really should read Defiance.

👍 The Recollections of an Aryan Woman written towards the end of her life offers a way more complete and nuanced presentation of EH worldview than Lightning as essential as it is.

Anything else like Serrano, Battersby, etc?

Is there a PDF of it floating around or do I have to pay $148.80 on Amazon for a Greg Johnson reprint?

Just a second

Serrano, though it was an incredibly long time ago.

Probably didn't gain much from it, as I hadn't really taken the RadTrad pill necessary to grasp a lot of the concepts being bandied about.

Guenon was a faggot, but his Introduction to the Study of the Hindu Scriptures was transformative for me in enabling me to expand my horizons after my teen Nietzsche reading had stripped me of my generic secular humanist perspective.

I promise to get back to you about it, I've got it 💯...somewhere I was supposed to make breakfast an hour ago but here I am talking about Esoteric Hitlerism.

At a later time then, comrade.

Sure.

I got first into EH through reading Savitri Devi in Finnish when I was searching for material by Kai Murros.

Actually the guy who translated Savitri Devi organizes those annual independence day marches. With our help.

You'd think the media would be all over him about neo nazi death cult rallies, but surprisingly not.

Anyway, talk to you all later, and getting you that pdf

https://youtu.be/aOGl7F_xbEw

Here you go @parrott
https://www.savitridevi.org/M&R_chapter_1.html

Oh yeah, Defiance too right http://www.savitridevi.org/PDF/defiance.pdf

It's REAL NIGGA hours who up

No serious man would be up at this hour.

I work third shift pls no h8 ;-;

ALL Traditionalist Worker Party members are invited to the GCK/EK rally in Dadeville, Al this Saturday btw.

I am.

I've heard about that, but I have no idea what's going on.

I work until 5 am PST

Third shift is where it's at boi.

I've been trying not to get fired from my consulting gig, so I don't end up panhandling harder than John DeNugent.

Hey, at least DeNugent's pipe-smoking vids cause ASMR.

Eh at least I havent been fired from my Security Officer job.

TradWorker emails gonna be all like, "If we don't reach this week's fundraising goals, I'm going to have to put my cat to sleep."

Plus Im no longer patrolling that godforsaken neighborhood.

I will adopt said cat.

I'm like Dr. Pierce.

Cat master race.

Eh I prefer doggos 🐶

Doggos are honourary.

As villains get more and more diabolical, their pets get more and more dangerous. Right up until you reach the final boss. The final boss always has a cat or toy dog of some kind.

It's really cruel how we subject poor rats to jew comparisons, I've petted a few pet rats, they were pretty cool.

Rats are smart.

They dindu nuffin.

I never really considered how comparing Jews to rats could be insensitive.

Yeah, I'd have them 1000x rather than jews.

But anyway, if any of you can come to our/their rally, please do 😃

I'll be giving an angerey sermon.

Plot Twist: Jews are actually 1000 rats crawling around in a poorly tailored suit.

I prefer to compare (((Kikes))) to pigeons...

Bruh I like pigeons stahp.

BLACK PIGEON SPEAKS.

Fair point.

BPS any good, I see his vids here and there but never bother watching

I prefer "Brain Slugs".

https://www.counter-currents.com/2012/03/have-a-brain-slug/

He's not NS but a lot of his vids fall in our area.

Eustace Mullins, "The Biological Jew" is the standard reference for offensive biological analogies.

https://marucha.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/eustace-mullins-the-biological-jew.pdf

He's got one where he goes on about the miracle of LSD that's a little weird.

BPS is very useful for normie->altright. For a hardcore altrighter, it'll be a bit thin. Very slick and compelling presentations.

The best one is on how women ruin civilisation if emancipated.

Patriarchy is divinely instituted.

Finally we have a guy speaking my language

As the hero Arjuna tells the God Krishna in the Baghavad Gita,

‘In overwhelming chaos, Krishna

Women of the family are corrupted,

And when women are corrupted,

Disorder is born in society’

Ding ding ding.

Shit!

Based Dharma.

Finally!

Based Hindu!

Kali did nothing wrong.

Just how many Esoteric Hitlerites do we have here? At least 4.

I am.

Me, DD, MStaff, Dylan, who else

@parrott Damn niBBa you in minority here

In addition to being an Anglo-Catholic.

Sure

I'm somewhere in Longshanks area.

I guess you read the Holy Book of Adolf Hitler?

Yes.

No popery.

Preach

Jesuits must burn.

May the Catholic Faith remove ALL the taint from the inside out!

Deus Vult!

DEO VINDICE

DEUS VULT!!!!

> runs around in a blind panic burning all the heretics in here

> Obligatory REMOVE KEBAB post inb4.

Also! ZA DOM SPREMNI! =U= 14-88!

Praise Kalki

Praise the sun.

and his prophet is Savitri Devi (PBUH)

> sun worship is implictly white.

Watch "Evo Zore, Evo Dana - Marching song of the Crna Legija" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/8vQj7HzuUho

That countryball tho.

I commented "Poland still cannot into space" on one of their nationalist vids and it caused a shitstorm lmao.

Lol 😂

Like I just assumed everyone knew the meme.

I can understand. I started a shitstorm on a video regarding The Yugoslavia War 😂

But apparently I'm a Nazi-Larper and a Russian agent or something.

😛

Tallinn - Sarajevo - Tbilisi axis of ex commie countries is the butthurt belt of Europe, say anything and a shitstorm is guaranteed.

Yup 😂

Apparently so xD

Ironic considering all the Slavophiles around these parts.

Especially since the comments are LOADED with Tito Sympathizers

Kidding me, slavs get even worse along with each other than with other ethnicities.

Sad but true 😣

"Slavs and Finns are natural enemies. Like Baltics and slavs. Or Caucasians and slavs. Or Japanese and slavs. Or slavs and other slavs. Damn slavs, ruined Eastern Europe."

Lol Groundskeeper Willie nationalism.

Lol. 😂

BOI we need a cast on TRS with these bantz.

Yes.

Build a wall around the slav.

With the Chairman being friendos with Enoch now it shouldn't be too hard.

More so build a wall around Turkey.

Retake Constantinople.

Dissolve Turkey.

Yup 😈

Let the Armenians sit on war crimes trials against them.

Hell yea! Turn N. Turkey into Slavistan!

Assuming it would be possible to purchase the Confederate statue that was removed, I think the WN community should pool a fund to that end.

https://www.facebook.com/vandalnationalism/videos/1198872783573920/

They won't let us buy it from them.

We tried that in Montgomery County MD and they wouldn't sell it.

Ugh 👿

You know they can't have WHITEY making shrines and shit grrrrr

morning

Morning.

how be it?

Gonna be heading off to sleep soon.

me too in about an hour

you work nights I take it?