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2017-10-02 22:24:58 UTC

And I really love you brought that up.

2017-10-02 22:25:02 UTC

why's sodomy bad in your opinion?

2017-10-02 22:25:04 UTC

I don't talk about women's asses with my friends

2017-10-02 22:25:12 UTC

I didn't come here to bantz

2017-10-02 22:25:31 UTC

"Things have gone so far that this company of moralists does not stop at the borders of private life. They would love to establish purity committees in cities and the countryside that would keep on eye on Mรผllerโ€™s and Schulzeโ€™s love and marriage life. It is true that they do not want to go so far as to ban kissing altogehter, as in the familiar operetta, since it is too popular a pastime. If it were up to them, however, they would turn National Socialist Germany into a wasteland of muttering and complaining, a place where denunciation, spying, and extortion were the order of the day.

These same moralists often turn to government offices with the request to ban films, plays, operas, and operettas, since the dancers, stars, etc., apparently represent a grave danger to public decency. If we gave in to their demands, we should soon see only old ladies and men on the screen or the stage. The theaters would be empty, since the public generally does not attend them to see the same people they see in church or old peopleโ€™s homes.

Save us from these hypocritical creatures who have no genuine strong conception of life, and who in reality preach no honest morality. They generally are lifeโ€™s losers, protesting life itself. Eternal life and its laws will hardly make way for them; at most, they will hide behind a screen of contemptible hypocrisy and dishonest prudery."
- Joseph Goebbels

2017-10-02 22:26:04 UTC

@CatoHostilius Honestly, never?

2017-10-02 22:26:09 UTC

No

2017-10-02 22:26:18 UTC

Never in your life?

2017-10-02 22:26:29 UTC

Before I became redpilled I might've

2017-10-02 22:26:43 UTC

i want to know why he considers sodomy between consenting adults (something i consider morally reprehsible) to be fine, but bantering about asses is just fine. i want to know, otherwise it seems like hypocrisy

2017-10-02 22:26:46 UTC

Jesus, where am I.

2017-10-02 22:27:16 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/274535531927568384/364538857460334594/quote-he-hitler-is-thinking-about-the-peasant-girls-when-they-stand-in-the-fields-and-bend-down-at-e.jpg

2017-10-02 22:27:17 UTC

i base my beliefs on what is socially harmful. Goebbels was right, but i believe you're misinterpreting him

2017-10-02 22:27:26 UTC

Do I even have to dignity asking why sodomy isn't equal to heterosexuality with a response?

2017-10-02 22:27:31 UTC

#AryanRumpNationalism

2017-10-02 22:27:58 UTC

you're implying you don't have a response. my response is that both are bad because both are psychologically unhealthy

2017-10-02 22:28:12 UTC

Do you have a sexuality?

2017-10-02 22:28:15 UTC

Elaborate why thicc girls equal sodomy.

2017-10-02 22:28:26 UTC

Do you know where white babies come from?

2017-10-02 22:28:55 UTC

White babies come from the stork fam.

2017-10-02 22:29:01 UTC

Tfw to intelligent

2017-10-02 22:29:03 UTC

For booty

2017-10-02 22:29:27 UTC

Ugh, you fucking apes, I have evolved above mere animalistic physical needs. Hahha...hah....

2017-10-02 22:29:38 UTC

homosexuality is wrong because of its social impact. So too is premarital sex and sexualizing women unnecissarily

2017-10-02 22:30:27 UTC

if it's so easy to prove me wrong, do it concisely and right now. explain why homos are bad but this is not bad. Explain why sex before marriage, or polygamy, or numerous sex partners is bad for society but not fostering those thoughts with images like that

2017-10-02 22:30:52 UTC

>So too is premarital sex and sexualizing women unnecissarily
"Are we living in a pietistic state, or in the age of life-affirming National Socialism?

No one can suspect us of wanting to live lives of ostentation or luxury. The Fรผhrer and many of his close comrades neither smoke nor drink nor enjoy sumptuous living. Those, however, who want to rob a nation of sixty million of every pleasure and all traces of optimism are contemptible, entirely aside from the fact that their foolish desires would drive countless people into poverty and misery."
- Goebbels

"Only a few years ago illegitimate children were considered a shameful matter. In defiance of the existing laws I have systematically influenced the SS to consider children, irrespective of illegality or otherwise, the most beautiful, and best thing there is. The results - today my men tell me with shining eyes that an illegitimate son has been born to them. Their girls consider it an honour, not a source of shame, in spite of existing legal circumstances." - Heinrich Himmler, to Felix Kersten on Lebensborn

2017-10-02 22:31:06 UTC

I'm not telling you to get kids out of wedlock but cumon lol

2017-10-02 22:31:10 UTC

And yet men are designed to have these thoughts, and we're social creatures

2017-10-02 22:31:11 UTC

If homosexuality is bad only because of social impact wouldn't modern homosexuality be just fine as it is socially acceptable.

2017-10-02 22:31:30 UTC

no, because modern society is unacceptable

2017-10-02 22:31:33 UTC

it's objectively amoral

2017-10-02 22:31:42 UTC

Women sexualize themselves unnecessarily

2017-10-02 22:31:46 UTC

Not the other way around

2017-10-02 22:31:50 UTC

Well yes women are whores

2017-10-02 22:31:52 UTC

and i don't think we should indulge in it

2017-10-02 22:31:56 UTC

But we shouldn't encourage them

2017-10-02 22:32:12 UTC

you are saying that if i maintain a moral stance on sexuality that i'm throwing the baby out with the bathwater

2017-10-02 22:32:21 UTC

That's much easier said than done, we go all primal mode seeing a thot

2017-10-02 22:32:23 UTC

MUST IMPREGNATE NOW

2017-10-02 22:32:33 UTC

I don't

2017-10-02 22:32:41 UTC

Hey, I'm the victim here, I got a thicc ass shoved into my face.

2017-10-02 22:32:42 UTC

I'm physically repulsed by whores

2017-10-02 22:32:45 UTC

then you're no better than a homosexual who ignores the spiritual reality of sexuality

2017-10-02 22:32:59 UTC

๐Ÿ˜‘

2017-10-02 22:33:02 UTC

@CatoHostilius you know your experience isn't the norm, right?

2017-10-02 22:33:08 UTC

Yeah

2017-10-02 22:33:19 UTC

Incel Nationalism.

2017-10-02 22:33:33 UTC

It's not incel if I'm actually pretty attractive

2017-10-02 22:33:38 UTC

Your IQ won't save the demographic decline into extinction.

2017-10-02 22:34:05 UTC

I'm just waiting to find a nice girl within 5 points of my IQ (preferably lower) to watch rick and morty with

2017-10-02 22:34:12 UTC

Lmao

2017-10-02 22:34:16 UTC

Kill yourself my friend.

2017-10-02 22:34:34 UTC

Brb, grabbing some rocks

2017-10-02 22:34:34 UTC

<:GWbowsuBlobGuns:359420214116483072>

2017-10-02 22:34:37 UTC

i'm not particularly smart

2017-10-02 22:34:43 UTC

and i don't have illusions about being smart

2017-10-02 22:34:52 UTC

i'm just trying to articulate my gut feelings

2017-10-02 22:35:08 UTC

Knock her up or we're knocked out.

2017-10-02 22:35:28 UTC

You could make a semi coherent argument against fucking everything with a pulse but comparing it to sodomy might not be the way to make the most convincing case.

2017-10-02 22:35:40 UTC

well why do you consider sodomy wrong

2017-10-02 22:35:45 UTC

i'm genuinely curious

2017-10-02 22:35:56 UTC

continue to think of me as an idiot if it helps

2017-10-02 22:36:11 UTC

I didn't say you're an idiot, we're simply having a friendly disagreement.

2017-10-02 22:36:18 UTC

It isn't of utility to the state.

2017-10-02 22:36:25 UTC

my point is, i want to know where you base your sexual ethics

2017-10-02 22:36:27 UTC

It's a mental illness.

2017-10-02 22:36:27 UTC

For one.

2017-10-02 22:36:33 UTC

That's two.

2017-10-02 22:36:35 UTC

Fucking every female with a pulses = more white babies

2017-10-02 22:36:39 UTC

Fucking gay dudes = aids

2017-10-02 22:36:48 UTC

National Socialism.

2017-10-02 22:36:53 UTC

That's my religion and my law.

2017-10-02 22:37:16 UTC

@Fevs so homosexuality isn't wrong if its done by two people out in the woods away from society as voluntary hermits who know they have no disease?

2017-10-02 22:37:26 UTC

I don't condone sexual promiscuity, but it's more understandable that homosexuality

2017-10-02 22:37:35 UTC

It's still wrong, but I don't give a shit about it

2017-10-02 22:37:44 UTC

They can do whatever they please as long as it doesn't hurt the community

2017-10-02 22:37:45 UTC

Also welcome aboard Fevs, didn't even notice we got a new guy.

2017-10-02 22:37:53 UTC

i think this gets dangerously close to justifying polygamy, promiscuity, pornography even

2017-10-02 22:37:57 UTC

This just in: explosives found at Vegas shooter's home.

2017-10-02 22:38:15 UTC

Is possible he converted to Islam.

2017-10-02 22:38:22 UTC

"as long as they're White and we're doing it without Jewish publishers to celebrate the Aryan form and encourage fertility and arousal in males!"

2017-10-02 22:38:28 UTC

Still wrong, but less wrong than waving dildos in the streets like they do now and pushing it on children

2017-10-02 22:38:31 UTC

Why would he have 8 firearms + explosives in his hotel room if he's just going to shoot a few hundred people then die

2017-10-02 22:38:34 UTC

Yeah what a narrative.

2017-10-02 22:38:42 UTC

Let's see the MSM spin that.

2017-10-02 22:38:47 UTC

@Fevs Not just in the room. In his home.

2017-10-02 22:38:51 UTC

OHH

2017-10-02 22:39:18 UTC

And chances are this guy might be another Charles Whitman case.

2017-10-02 22:39:19 UTC

Who doesn't have a small stash of emergency explosives in their home tbh

2017-10-02 22:39:19 UTC

It becomes a matter of utility ultimately. We are going extinct. We need Lebensborn.

2017-10-02 22:39:21 UTC

This is 2017

2017-10-02 22:39:21 UTC

i have to go now. i'll be back later

2017-10-02 22:39:22 UTC

Minus the tumor.

2017-10-02 22:39:52 UTC

Gays don't make white babies
Thot patrolers make white babies

2017-10-02 22:40:04 UTC

Sure I'll get a stable gf someday, but until then you gotta fuck around a bit to find her, gnomesayin? Sure fucking around randomly in itself might not benefit the white race overtly much.

2017-10-02 22:40:15 UTC

And it's degenerate

2017-10-02 22:40:16 UTC

It's not a good thing, fuck sexual promiscuity

2017-10-02 22:40:18 UTC

White Sharia space marine rape gangs make babies

2017-10-02 22:40:21 UTC

It is indeed degenerate

2017-10-02 22:40:28 UTC

but more understandable than homosexuality

2017-10-02 22:40:46 UTC

Say. Can we have a place to put "Narrative Investigation" stuff?

2017-10-02 22:40:55 UTC

I dont wanna clutter this chat.

2017-10-02 22:41:13 UTC

Weird dude, if I got a thicc pale fishnet NSBM ass shoved into my face I wouldn't complain.

2017-10-02 22:41:15 UTC

And didn't.

2017-10-02 22:41:33 UTC

Nigger would I

2017-10-02 22:41:38 UTC

๐Ÿค”

2017-10-02 22:41:40 UTC

Neither*

2017-10-02 22:42:06 UTC

My phone now autocorrects things to nigger, I guess

2017-10-02 22:42:16 UTC

Beer is degenerate too by definition isn't it? You gonna stop drinking beer?

2017-10-02 22:42:27 UTC

Well I don't

2017-10-02 22:42:43 UTC

I prefer bourbon

2017-10-02 22:42:58 UTC

@CatoHostilius okay i'm speaking generally not directly at you

2017-10-02 22:43:01 UTC

Also Bullets is definitely not incel

2017-10-02 22:43:33 UTC

I'm just ribbing him.

2017-10-02 22:43:54 UTC

He can call me White Kim Jong Un.

2017-10-02 22:45:50 UTC

I sort of don't trust people who claim to be morally pure about every little thing.

2017-10-02 22:46:24 UTC

Everybody has a past

2017-10-02 22:46:43 UTC

As long as you're better than most people, you're good enough for now tbh

2017-10-02 22:46:50 UTC

Well I'm not normally pure. I have anger issues

2017-10-02 22:47:00 UTC

You're gonna morally purify yourself into extinction.

2017-10-02 22:47:24 UTC

Except sex with your wife is not a sin

2017-10-02 22:47:35 UTC

@CatoHostilius As long as you don't say swear words you're A-O-K with me

2017-10-02 22:47:52 UTC

Is this a Christian Minecraft server

2017-10-02 22:48:12 UTC

Tradworker Minecraft server

2017-10-02 22:48:15 UTC

Somebody make it happen

2017-10-02 22:48:34 UTC

Can I be the officer that busts in doors to make sure people are having intercourse in the proper god approved position?

2017-10-02 22:48:42 UTC

TWP is probably the least autistic group though

2017-10-02 22:48:42 UTC

Yes

2017-10-02 22:48:45 UTC

This is neo nazism-occultist-degeneracy discord.

2017-10-02 22:49:08 UTC

If you're not only having sex in missionary position in the middle of the wheatfield, full clothed, with the lights off, for the purposes of reproduction

2017-10-02 22:49:10 UTC

You're sinful

2017-10-02 22:49:25 UTC

Anything else should be illegal

2017-10-02 22:49:33 UTC

Yes

2017-10-02 22:53:06 UTC

Wtf I love Iran now

2017-10-02 22:58:00 UTC

Lma9

2017-10-02 22:58:04 UTC

Lmao*

So I'm pretty sure this guy I did a job for tried to bait me into saying something

Just started taking politics out of no where and just met him

Of course he disputed every valid point of mine with Gibs

Oh shit KU fly shades lol

2017-10-03 00:35:56 UTC

i don't believe in purity spiralling. but some things are wrong

2017-10-03 00:37:28 UTC

if homosexuality is only considered wrong because you can't make White babies, then you're basing its immorality on its impracticality. Its effects are immoral and not the action itself. In a theoretical world, then, one that's overpopulated with no more planets to colonize, then homosexuality wouldn't be wrong. That's *obviously* not the case, because the immorality lies in the act itself

2017-10-03 00:39:30 UTC

I used to do a bunch of degenerate shit, and i stopped when i realized the immense harm it was doing to me. i wouldn't welcome a face full of fishnetted NSBM ass because i don't think it's healthy. it's an excuse to do unhealthy stuff; it's just wrapped up in a pretty cloth. it's chocolate-coated poison

2017-10-03 00:40:13 UTC

getting drunk, being promiscuous, watching porn etc. i cut it all out because it's not healthy, and i wish i could get those sexual experiences back. i never will, and it's my greatest regret

2017-10-03 00:40:32 UTC

What are we arguing about?

2017-10-03 00:41:21 UTC

i don't think we should be encouraging the sharing of raunchy pictures

2017-10-03 00:41:41 UTC

Agreed, pornography is Jewish iconography

2017-10-03 00:41:55 UTC

i mean even softcore or suggestive stuff that involves clothing

2017-10-03 00:41:55 UTC

every time you watch porn

2017-10-03 00:41:58 UTC

jews are laughing

2017-10-03 00:42:26 UTC

>if homosexuality is only considered wrong because you can't make White babies,
The Fag agenda's its ultimate end goal is to make it alright to have sex with anything and anyone regardless of anything. They have oversaturated their narrative with all these fake labels for different genders and sexual orientations for the sake of completely breaking down all definitions, until it will be about justifying โ€œhumans fucking humansโ€ (incest, pedophilia are made permissible under that notion) and later on โ€œanimals fucking animalsโ€ (zoophilia made permissible under that notion). It's not that complicated.

2017-10-03 00:42:31 UTC

They only give one thing away for free, porn

2017-10-03 00:42:49 UTC

Yeah we need rigid sexual morality

2017-10-03 00:42:50 UTC

in all cases

2017-10-03 00:43:14 UTC

but the only way the homosexuals were able to take those first steps was by loosening sexual morals and attitudes to begin with

2017-10-03 00:43:28 UTC

agreed

2017-10-03 00:43:30 UTC

homosexuality is not wrong because it's a slippery slope, it's wrong for its own reasons

2017-10-03 00:43:36 UTC

it also happens to be a slippery slope

2017-10-03 00:43:47 UTC

the same exact thing with sharing pictures of "NSBM ass"

2017-10-03 00:43:56 UTC

Homo's, bro's, thots etc; all that has tro be ended

2017-10-03 00:43:57 UTC

You think the Jews aren't trying desperately to get us in pitfall traps?

2017-10-03 00:44:07 UTC

We need to promote healthy sexuality and modesty

2017-10-03 00:44:09 UTC

Even Der Sturmer is more lewd than I am.

2017-10-03 00:44:23 UTC

That is from a different time and was done in a different spirit

2017-10-03 00:44:35 UTC

The ecstacy of St. Theresa is not the same as fishnetted ass

2017-10-03 00:44:39 UTC

>i wouldn't welcome a face full of fishnetted NSBM ass because i don't think it's healthy
I respectfully disagree but you are entitled to your own opinion.

2017-10-03 00:45:41 UTC

NS thots are worse than regular thots imo

2017-10-03 00:45:55 UTC

NS thots at least ought to know better

2017-10-03 00:46:15 UTC

I think this is about as revealing as a woman should ever dress in public tbh

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/274535531927568384/364573835296636929/Bund-Deutscher-Madel-1937.06.jpg

2017-10-03 00:46:17 UTC

i suppose that's all we can do. thanks for being civil. I just think that we should always bear in Mind the Ladder of Divine Ascent (even if you're not Orthodox). People always look for outlets for degenerate urges and seek desperately to justify them and wallow in them

2017-10-03 00:46:34 UTC

Agreed, white burkinis today

2017-10-03 00:46:48 UTC

That's pretty lewd

2017-10-03 00:47:01 UTC

White Ethnostate 2077: http://i.imgur.com/1hW4IY7.jpg

2017-10-03 00:47:08 UTC

Life is struggle. Ethnicity is struggle

2017-10-03 00:47:09 UTC

Insh'Allah

2017-10-03 00:47:33 UTC

more or less, dude

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/274535531927568384/364574162393497600/lithuanian-dancing.png

2017-10-03 00:47:55 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/274535531927568384/364574254294892556/headcovering21.png

2017-10-03 00:48:16 UTC

"This is what the ethnostate will look like by 2050, and it's beautiful."

2017-10-03 00:48:37 UTC

100% agree man. Especially if we are going to kill the feminist and sexual hookup culture in america, we need to take a full step back to modesty, not a half one

2017-10-03 00:49:34 UTC

absolutely

2017-10-03 00:49:45 UTC

white sharia

2017-10-03 00:49:55 UTC

White Traditionalism

2017-10-03 00:50:09 UTC

Roughly the same thing in practice

2017-10-03 00:50:12 UTC

^

2017-10-03 00:50:13 UTC

White sharia is radical white traditionalist

2017-10-03 00:50:19 UTC

Potato potato

2017-10-03 00:50:36 UTC

The thing is, the White sharia meme totally denigrates women, instead of simply putting them in their proper role

2017-10-03 00:50:46 UTC

In National Socialism, the cult of the mother is the same as the cult of the warrior

2017-10-03 00:50:47 UTC

the white sharia meme is basically dead at this point

2017-10-03 00:50:50 UTC

true, but its also a joke

2017-10-03 00:50:51 UTC

so its best to let it lie

2017-10-03 00:50:58 UTC

one that's largely played out

2017-10-03 00:51:03 UTC

Thots, yeah, but it doesn't insult wholesome women in my experience

2017-10-03 00:51:08 UTC

It is pretty dead though

2017-10-03 00:51:19 UTC

NatSoc never dies, because its based on eternal principles

2017-10-03 00:51:24 UTC

we still with that, we'll be fine

2017-10-03 00:51:34 UTC

women are truly liberated in National Socialism, as Adolf Hitler said

2017-10-03 00:51:35 UTC

I was referring to the WS meme

2017-10-03 00:51:53 UTC

now the latest meme is throwing rocks at big brained nibbas

2017-10-03 00:52:07 UTC

I unironically support that

2017-10-03 00:52:20 UTC

Hitting, not throwing

2017-10-03 00:52:41 UTC

Most intellectuals do need rocks thrown at them tho

2017-10-03 00:52:51 UTC

We were discussing the relative value of "intellectuals" vs "thugs" to the movement earlier today

2017-10-03 00:53:19 UTC

intellectuals are only useful in the higher caste of a movement, for lack of a better term

2017-10-03 00:53:26 UTC

I think we are straying from the original argument though, no one is claiming degeneracy is good in itself. @Tarnfurt suggested that talking about girls is degen and would have been banned in Germany along with non-burkini pics. No one is telling you should go and shoot up, just don't take bantz too seriously. Guys and comrades will always bantz, and no one will talk about high philosphy in the trenches.

2017-10-03 00:53:40 UTC

Pol Pot did nothing wrong tbqh

2017-10-03 00:54:03 UTC

outside of that though intellectuals usually breed stagnation imo

2017-10-03 00:54:07 UTC

Like I said an hour or so ago, "I dream of the day when the word intellectual is universally recognized as a term of abuse in the movement."

2017-10-03 00:54:28 UTC

who would win the 14 words or lewd photos?

2017-10-03 00:54:38 UTC

dismissing any critical thought as self-absorbed intellectualism is dangerous, though

2017-10-03 00:54:57 UTC

the 14 words because those sharing lewd photos will likely not bear children

2017-10-03 00:55:12 UTC

I know I was just joking

2017-10-03 00:55:21 UTC

we have to temper our thinking with what is practical and actually *real* , yes, but we can't dismiss philosophy because some people think incorrect or inapplicable thoughts

2017-10-03 00:55:30 UTC

Spencer and the other intellectuals will one day have to go rock themselves

2017-10-03 00:55:35 UTC

@Kombat-Unit i'm asking what defines degeneracy

2017-10-03 00:55:54 UTC

@Tarnfurt yes we can, it's called hitting them with rocks

2017-10-03 00:56:09 UTC

im just tired of 5000 page books on esoteric nonsense

2017-10-03 00:56:22 UTC

eventually we need a Night of the Big Rocks

2017-10-03 00:56:36 UTC

Im NS because i love my two sons and want them to grow up safe, moral, and in their own nation; i think pondering bizarro hindu texts is stupid and a waste of my time

2017-10-03 00:56:53 UTC

and the entire big brain part of our movement focuses on stupid shit like that

2017-10-03 00:56:54 UTC

can't be said enough

2017-10-03 00:56:55 UTC

truly

2017-10-03 00:57:05 UTC

i dont need 9000 words on why Batman is a secret Evolian figure

2017-10-03 00:57:08 UTC

Metaphysical nonsense

2017-10-03 00:57:23 UTC

@Arcturus stupid philosophy is stupid and can be exposed as such. But philosophy is one of the West's great traditions, and it's abstract thought that separates us from lower man

2017-10-03 00:57:31 UTC

That feel when you're fanatically anti intellectual but will sperg about Esoteric Hitlerism for hours and arctic vedas if someone brings it up. hlep

2017-10-03 00:57:37 UTC

TL;DR Rope the stupid brainy smarties

2017-10-03 00:58:01 UTC

arctic

2017-10-03 00:58:04 UTC

VEGAS

2017-10-03 00:58:07 UTC

The Noose articles on this subject are the best

2017-10-03 00:58:08 UTC

Philosophy largely seems to be for those of middling IQ to convince themselves that they're actually big brained by staring into their navel

2017-10-03 00:58:22 UTC

Yeah, I really recommend you check out the anti intellectualism pieces.

2017-10-03 00:58:30 UTC

What @MatthewHeimbach said is perfect. No one needs bullshit. But if you're telling me having a foundation from which you've built your worldview on is stupid, that's exceedingly negroid

2017-10-03 00:58:50 UTC

Giovanni Gentile put is so well "Intellectualism is a sickness of the intellect"

2017-10-03 00:58:57 UTC

We just need a reasonable middle ground on the intellectual stuff

2017-10-03 00:59:08 UTC

We arent morons who dont like to read, but we also need to live in the real world

2017-10-03 00:59:11 UTC

I don't mean to conflate sound thought with sophistry

2017-10-03 00:59:36 UTC

I hope you guys know i'm anti-all that trotskyite, neo-marxist, frankfurt school, postmodern bullshit

2017-10-03 00:59:46 UTC

where people get wrapped up in theoretical nonsense

2017-10-03 01:00:00 UTC

but there is a need to have a groundwork for why you believe what you believe

2017-10-03 01:00:09 UTC

its okay, you can just call it "jewish"

2017-10-03 01:00:21 UTC

i wanted to specify some of the aspects.

2017-10-03 01:00:23 UTC

The bible seems to be good enough for the masses on that

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