yea

its always funny hearing william pierce talk about the clintons I was a child when that was going on so idk much about it

I think my late grandfather would've loved Dr. Pierce

I'm gen z, for me everything has always been complete shit

i plan on briging tape recordings of ADV to his & my grandmother's graves

call it cheesey

thats awesome man

@Hadrian 's always giving me shit for always listening to ADV and nothing new

i love the nostalgia of Dr. Pierce's voice though. I never heard him as a child but everything about it; the sound quality, the topics etc. reminds me of my grandparents

I thought I'm the biggest music sperg here but what is ADV.

does anyone have every single broadcast? i listen to Herr Nordstrom on YouTube but i don't think he has all of them

American Dissident Voices

Ofc.

Dr. Pierce's broadcasts

Yeah. I actually do, sec.

Among the first NS material I had.

thanks man, i appreciate it

they took down the archive.org store of all his broadcasts

which infuriated me

it had an Aryan Nations speech as well i think

😮

@Tarnfurt https://natallsac.wordpress.com/audio/dr-piercee-1997/
https://natallsac.wordpress.com/audio/dr-pierce-1998/
https://natallsac.wordpress.com/audio/dr-pierce-1999/
https://natallsac.wordpress.com/audio/dr-pierce-2000/

I just want this to happen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVciOLOcdgY

@Kombat-Unit 👌🏻

thank you so much, man

np

i thought for sure he had broadcasts dating back to at least 1994 though?

i swear i've heard speeches dated 1994

i want to make that my ringtone

that'd get me in such huge trouble here

i was almost fired for a Swastika phone wallpaper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZBpr2Dt1pk

"people"

Not living as an open nazi is no life at all. Larping a bluepill is the worst.

I remember watching that movie in class, I bursted out laughing at that scene and was told to leave the room

i know but ever since i started showing my power levels my luck's been getting worse

you gotta get out of the formerly Great White North

@☦Colton of Yore☦ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fmx8A1okcaA

i really want to

I basically force-fed my father the redpill

he now loves Cdr. Rockwell and Dr. Pierce, he's a National Socialist. But he refuses to let his business sink

Haha this Quimby guy is losing his shit at me, the one who stepped up on Craig when we confronted Robb.

he works in real estate and there are a ton of Jews

He's a 20-something year old boomer.

Tell Quimby he's a cunt he can watch his mouth

@MatthewHeimbach how do you reconcile the Tanakh with knowing what the Jews are really like?

The semitic nature of the old testament has always given me pause

Orthodox Christians dont even read out of the OT in liturgy, its a roadmap of jews being evil horrible creatures, leading us to the ultimate anti-Jew, Jesus

I never sperged to my parents about Nazism, never really felt the need, I always cringe a bit when I see those "Hey /pol/ I epically redpilled my mom on the JQ AMA" posts. My family knows I'm a full on nazi, don't really care all that much, but I guess they know I wouldn't care either way.

"Christ is the genius of love, as such the most diametrical opposite of Judaism, which is the incarnation of hate. The Jew is a non-race among the races of the earth.... Christ is the first great enemy of the Jews.... that is why Judaism had to get rid of him. For he was shaking the very foundations of its future international power. The Jew is the lie personified. When he crucified Christ, he crucified everlasting truth for the first time in history. "-Dr. Joseph Goebbels

But isn't it based on them being God's (((chosen people)))

Nah man, Jesus clarifies all that in several key places

i'm not an expert

"Bah, Goethe!" he interrupted contemptuously. "Not even the saintly Thomas Aquinas is able
to reach these people. The great father of the Church has described in his writings our
relationship with the Jews in terms of a voyage on a ship. The Jews, embarked on the same
vessel with the Christians, play a characteristic role: while the Christians are occupied with
sailing the ship, the Jews plunder the storeroom and bore holes in the hull. St. Thomas
recommends that they should be relieved of their booty and chained to the rudder. What an
atrocity! How un-Christian! Poor Jews! One can learn so much from them! At least, according
to Drs. Heim and Schweyer. And so the world goes on, governed with the same wisdom as in
the time of Joseph's Pharaoh." - AH

Not even a christian but I love the shit out of "Bolshevism from Moses to Lenin"

The Parable of the Wicked Tenants
Luke 20:9-19

And he began to tell the people this parable: “A man planted a vineyard and let it out to tenants and went into another country for a long while. 10 When the time came, he sent a servant[a] to the tenants, so that they would give him some of the fruit of the vineyard. But the tenants beat him and sent him away empty-handed. 11 And he sent another servant. But they also beat and treated him shamefully, and sent him away empty-handed. 12 And he sent yet a third. This one also they wounded and cast out. 13 Then the owner of the vineyard said, ‘What shall I do? I will send my beloved son; perhaps they will respect him.’ 14 But when the tenants saw him, they said to themselves, ‘This is the heir. Let us kill him, so that the inheritance may be ours.’ 15 And they threw him out of the vineyard and killed him. What then will the owner of the vineyard do to them? 16 He will come and destroy those tenants and give the vineyard to others.”

Basically, Jesus is saying that because Jews are so evil, God gives his inheritance to us, the Gentiles, and kills the Jews

He gave them every chance not to be evil, but they chose to serve "their father the devil" as Christ said

makes sense

Now, what do you make of Himmler, who was a clear pagan (at least, i think it's clear) and the so-called Positive Christianity movement?

I've heard that the Führer had contempt for Christianity in private

Positive Christianity as Plank 24 of the NSDAP platform outlined is simply traditionalist Christianity.

The Rosenberg Positive Christian movement was so goofy that Hitler refused to give them official status as a religion in the Reich

The Table Talks, the only source of so called "anti-Christian" beliefs of Hitler, has been proven to be false on several levels in the decades since it was published

You are a godsend

Either Hitler was a liar and a swindler from 1918-onward, or he was a Christian. I don't think he was a regular churchgoer or really fanatically Christian, but he was far from anti-Christian

>The Table Talks
I've noticed that people either regard TT as legitimate or forgery depending entirely on their religious position.

that will be an interesting topic of discussion

I came to them as false even i was an edgy atheist funny enough

Perhaps the most important thing is to see where Hitler got his ideology. Dietrich Eckart, to whom Mein Kampf is written to, said "This war was a religious war, finally one sees that clearly. A war between light and darkness, truth and falsehood, Christ and Antichrist"

Eckart was very Christian, but no fan of the OT

Which isn't out of line with traditional Christian understanding

how did you go from edgy fedora to ortho twp goy

Yeah the OT made me uncomfy until you gave that parable

i hated Deuteronomy

In the same year, the historical validity of remarks in the English and French translations of the table-talk were challenged in a new partial translation by Richard Carrier and Reinhold Mittschang, who went so far as to call them "entirely untrustworthy",[6] suggesting they had been altered by Francois Genoud....Many of the quotations used to support arguments in favor of Hitler's anti-Christianity are derived from the Genoud–Trevor-Roper translation. Carrier argues that no one "who quotes this text is quoting what Hitler actually said." -From an aritcle on the Table Talks, btw

now i'm actually okay with it

what do you make of the 12 Apostles being Jews

were they "decent Jews"?

Only Judas was a Jew, the rest of the Apostles were men from Galilee

John 7:1 "After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him."

i thought they were Hebrews? They weren't religious Jews?

Eckart and Hitler shat on Paul big time in Bolshevism from Moses to Lenin.

If Jesus was going home, to Galilee, to be away from "jewry" then His people weren't Jews

wasn't there a big debate in Jerusalem about circumcision? And Peter had to be told that he didn't need to follow the Kosher laws anymore?

How would you describe "Positive christianity", all my knowledge from it comes from Savitri Devi who naturally wrote of it negatively from a pagan perspective, but how would you meaningfully differentiate it from the christianity you practice?

Besides, kikes let the Romans crucify Jesus, while they were living in an ethnarchy and had the duty of enforcing law on their own race.

It's Orthodoxy. The Orthodox symbol is the two headed eagle. One head is the church, one the state, with each having different roles for the good of the body, the people. As Wilhelm Frick said on this "The party stands for positive Christianity. The National Socialist state is absolutely ready to work with the Christian churches, but the solidarity of the churches to the Volk must be a matter of course; that means that the churches must feel bound to the Volk and may never come into opposition to the National Socialist leadership of the state. "

The church must be national, which is why we have Serbian, Russian, Romanian, Greek, Bulgarian etc

yes, i agree. but what about peter and the circumcision/dietary laws?

The authority of the Orthodox church is only found within the nation, other peoples dont have a say. Even if the head of the Russian church hates something a Serb patriarch said, he has no authority to override the national decision

I got into a huge argument

with a catholic

on this

they kept saying it was bad because it was split that way

nationalism vs internationalism

God created the nations, therefore each nation should have its own church

And Peter was corrected, through a church council of dogma in Acts

"“Do you know,” said she, “that even as a child I refused to sing the church hymns that alluded to Jehovah or to Israel, on the ground that I was a German and wanted no foreign religion forced upon me? How I understand your nostalgia for the Olympian Gods as well as for your mother’s old Norse ones! How I do!”

“I am glad you do,” I replied. “Only other National Socialists like ourselves have ever understood how important a part that yearning has played in my whole evolution. But fancy that the exact opposite of our attitude is to be found among some European Aryans! Have you heard of a religious sect in England whose members style themselves as ‘British Israelites’?”

“No.”

“Well, such a sect exists. The adherents, mind you, are not Jews—although some, of course, might be mixed. But I know of some who are thoroughbred Englishmen—Celts and Anglo-Saxons; Aryans. Only they try to prove—by the most spurious arguments—that they and the whole English nation are descended from some ‘lost tribe’ of Israel. Pure-blooded Aryans trying to make out that they are Jews; wanting to be Jews! Have you ever heard of such disgraceful nonsense as that?”

“Well,” put in Herr H, “they have been taught for over 1,500 years that the Jews are ‘God’s chosen people.’ Can you blame them? As you say yourself, the original crime lies in the adoption of Christianity.”

“The one before the last of the Twenty-Five Points,” said I, “although it states that the Party as such stands for ‘a positive Christianity,’ advocates ‘liberty for all religious denominations in the state, so long as they are not a danger to it, and do not militate against the moral feelings of the Germanic race.” Alfred Rosenberg has tried to explain what ‘positive’ Christianity means, and it appears to me that he has just reduced it to that basic commonsense morality which any Aryan can accept."

where's that from?

Can you weight in on that "basic commonsense morality" bit, knowing a bit about positive christianity, how it was theologically different from regular protestantism?