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Read the Bible
exactly chad
god bless you
Religion isnโt an argument in favor of ritual sacrifice as much as ritual sacrifice is an argument against religion
No it isn't
you can't use religion in a debate or argument
unless you are arguing over that religion
But on the other hand, I sort of feel like sacrificing @hcaez right now
yes you can
what do you say guys?
no
well then you would be a hypocrite visitor
I am
A proud hypocrite
well I can't quote exactly where in the old testament
I don't support things like that because killing a person for no reason is wrong.
You non believers are going to hell. Good riddance
but there was something
yep and you're going to heaven for wanting to kill people, totally
nice
Itโs not wrong to kill a person if itโs in the name of god
Also if god demands us to kill them
are soldiers going to heaven for killing people if its their duty
are you going to heaven by aborting babies
it depends
i'm not a leftist
Yeah
i'm conservative
Instead of abortions we should just call them ritual sacrifices of fetuses
That argument makes no sense
That would be ok right?
yeah just say god told you to kill the baby
makes it all good
Yeah
Only if the parent is liberal
It says it somewhere in the New Testament
No.
not good visitor
nope
Stop putting anti-christian propaganda
Everytime a sacrifice involving a baby was occured, it happened after birth
and there was reason behind it
Letโs change that
This is the modern era
well
i don't know if that's possible
There is no anti-Christian propaganda, I am simply stating you can't use religion to justify killing someone.
We should carry out ritual sacrifices with our new scientific knowledge
okay then what can you use to justify killing someone
if they attack you and try to kill you, or if they did something extremely cruel and villainous.
not sacrificing an innocent person because "god said so"
why do you believe that's appropriate
Self-defense with no other options or as an instrument of a just law
If youโre an executioner
what gives you the right to end another's lives?
Nothing.
Or if youโre taking down a school shooter or something
Society at large can give you the right to end a life
Through government and laws
Because for one its self-defense and there's no other option, second if they did something like killed 10 people, and are a threat to society and there's no other option.
But thatโs a really narrow window
Okay but why kill them? surely incapacitating them is both easier and doesn't involve taking one's life
Deaths are really only justified to prevent further deaths
Thatโs preferable imo
If you could just deactivate a school shooter with the same effectiveness as a gun we should switch to that
I would much prefer incarceration, I just give me extreme scenerios.
But thatโs not certain
You know what I hate
Sometimes shooting them is the only effective way
What do you hate, Chad?
Why incarceration as a punishment?
Studies have shown it's not effective
When people try to say Muslims are radicals for wanting honor killings
To prevent them from menacing society and to rehabilitate them
unless it's life long
Yet honor killings arenโt bad
Because its the fairest punishment you can give for someone that's a menace to society
prisons rarely rehabilitate people
@chad As a library, you are disgracing me and should die
*libtard lamo
Thatโs like saying Trump is a radical Muslim for liking charity
how can you judge a punishment fair?
Taking someones life = 20 years?
Trump is a radical Mushroom for supporting ebola
Disgracing you for staying a fact? Sorry facts donโt care about your feelings snowflake.
that's a bit far visitor, stay civil unlike them.
Sorry, just fellow libtard banter
any response kylo
LOL
NOOOO T1
did you hear he quit league
@hcaez punishments should not be worse than crimes
good Iโm about to quit also you canโt do honor killings so it offends my religious beliefs
thatโs the general rule
what does that mean
Well if someone is a menace to society, and knows the punishment they will receive for their actions, its nobodies fault but theirs
the crimes that the punished commit?
but how's that fair then
Putting a limit on the scope of punishments to crime?
Because they know what's going to happen, yet they still do it. Incarceration is a fair punishment because it gives them a chance to rehabilitate and fix their life.
It seems to me that youโre saying ritual sacrifice is more humane than enforcing laws at all
no visitor, i was just trolling you
lol
Ok good
step up
Enforce the law of sacrificing people to god.
but seriously
What about this guy tho
Oh great now you're back
@Muffster is he trolling?
no It's a joke calm down
Phew
What I'm getting from this conversation is hypercriticism
You're saying that it's fair to establish law regarding punishment and expect people to not do bad things because of it
Hypocrite or hypercriticism?
Theyโre different things
While religious people use the same argument except using their bible
no its not the same
Are you god in the regard of saying how people should be punished
pretty much muffster
**There is no god**
๐
laws are established by the government and are laid out for all the people
the people are then expected to follow them
this is how society works
couldn't you say the same thing about religion?
no you can't
Why
most people voluntarily take up religion
because people aren't forced/don't follow the same religion
there are many people who have no religion
that's fine they can establish their own system then
so if you were to enforce a religious ideal on people that don't follow it, its not fair.
didn't say that would happen, but now what
Ok bye
if all people agree to follow one religion what difference is that from the US gov?
there's a big difference, a government cannot operate without laws. While many people are fine without religion.
The bill of rights specifically gives people the right of religion choice
Wait did t1 actually quit league?
yes
that way they don't have to worry about someone oppressing their religion on them.
when
yesterday, he raged about adc being broken
That makes no sense
and said he would start doing variety again or something
Heโs an adc
Shouldnโt he be happy
broken in a bad way
Oh
Is it on YouTube also good I miss his variety streams
just look on one of those league clip channels
?
If a man rapes an 8 year old girl and the community come together and kill them and they call it an honor killing is it bad
Yes
How is it bad
He raped an 8 year old girl
because he should still have a chance at life, he commited a terrible crime that no person should ever even think about doing, but he is still a life and deserves a chance.
what I'm arguing is that we're all people, none of us are smart enough or just enough to create fair punishments
So ur against the death penalty?
even if we assemble into a government
No I am for it, under certain extreme circumstances
oh ok
extreme
same
LMFAO
Dear Fuck, it's real
I double checked as well, and can confirm
Obama is a porn star
It is real
Lol
Heโs virtue signaling to gay nigaz
Rolf
@sษชแด ษชsษดแดแดสแดสแด what the FREAK
wait
Nevermind I stole it from you
continue ๐ฆ
I donโt think the government shutdown is changing anyoneโs political allegiances but itโs further polarizing right and left as they continue to point fingers at each other
Idk
agreed
based
We need help schooling some libs. message if your willing to join the fight
@TrumpCosby Iโm not
I dont think women should be represents bad in historical games.
EA is ruining history games.
NEVER were there a black German women who fought in WW2.
A women with a bionic arm?
Even more stupid
Liberalism and feminism ruined history games
Liberalism has ruined the economy, society in general
Thereโs not one leftist policy that makes sense
True.
All I wanted. All I wanted... was Rey to be a sith and become kylo renโs apprentice. But no... she has to be strong independent female hero thing.
Same
The liberal agenda made the movie decent
But no a women can NEVER be friends with an evil white straight male
Yeah! Down with the patriarchy! Nasty white males (kidding)
Extremists are whatโs wrong with the world
Lucky i dont live in the USA
Nowdays i find communists supporting the taliban because they are against us imperialism
I'd say it is tolerance for evil that is what is wrong with the world, it takes an "extreme" person to do something that will actually matter.
Yea obungus its pretty neat to support a group which oppresses women
who gives a shit about women? LMAO
But ISIS claims itself to be anti imperialist, so whats the exception?
Your just a dogmatic 14 year old kid who plays COD and has a shitshow when it comes to politics, hows that?
not true
I think anyone that supports extremists groups fuel evil
I have never even once, seen you with any intricate knowledge of politics
but tell yourself what ever you want and start talking when you can understand a shitpost
It really is not funny when you troll about terrorism, it really isnt
That is because I do not conduct dialogue with the magapedes
I never supported terrorism
when did I say that?
I just said it sometimes takes a person with extreme views to meaningful things
which is simply true
Being a centrist reactionary gets us no where
You said it with the context of my statement lol
You think I read conversations before I join them?
So obviously if even if you didnt say it, it could be easily inferred
Or you could ask me for clarification
I dont have to
Your just a Logan 2.0
very cool sid!
I know you do not have to ask for clarification I am saying it would have been easier for you if you had
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That was randomness
I didnโt see the messages above
lol
This e-girl got mad because she thought I supported the taliban
It xould be inferred as i said
Not much to clarify while being strikingly obvious
I wasn't even responding to you
Gonzalez had said extremism is what is wrong with the world and I responded to him
I think thereโs a difference between being passionate and being extreme is all
When youโre passionate you get it done
When youโre extreme itโs โby any means necessaryโ
Iโm talking about groups that incite violence of course
The Sons of Liberty were extremists, yes?
The difficulty with your definition of extremists as people who incite violence is that we all disagree on what that means
That is, extreme groups usually believe that violence has already been brought upon them
I mean like people that condone genocide
Some third wave feminist for instance that post โkill all menโ
That is a more fair way to define evil, but political extremism can exist without genocide
Like I said I think thereโs a clear difference between passionate and being extreme
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