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Check it out! Flat earth!!!
_“But, but...it’s all CGI!!”_
We need some flat-earthers in here to clear this up for us.
do we really have to have a channel about flat earth or globe earth
we all know the earth is a hologram being projected from the moon
@Flat Earth Subgenius hey bro, how does gravity work on a flat earth?
How about either a solar eclipse or a lunar eclipse? How do those work on a flat earth model?
You mean no Flat Earther is going to come in here and destroy us Globe-Heads?
I believe we should focus on God and not things we can't comprehend. We all know nasa is a lie, we've never truely been to space, have we? Either way, it's beyond my knowledge and frankly, my care. All I care about is doing God's will and hopefully save some souls
The whole debate is just another public viral hoax to seperate us further. Just another way satan is creeping his way into the Christian/truther community. "divide and conquer" Yeah right. But that's just my opinion
No, that's the Blue Ridge Mountains where I've camped my whole life. In Virginia
No curvature 😸
NASA Warns Two Asteroids Could Cause Atmospheric Explosion Over Earth This Week
> "Make sure you don’t stare at it with the naked eye, similar to how you shouldn’t stare directly at the sun, no matter how curious you may be.
> 2020 DP4 is coming our way and will cause a similar space spectacle this week on March 22nd at 2:36 p.m EST. Compared to 2020 EF, 2020 DP4 is much larger in diameter at 180 feet wide and traveling at a faster velocity rate at 18,000 mph according to CNEOS.
> While 2020 EF is classified as an Aten asteroid, 2020 DP4 on the other hand belongs to the Apollo family of space rocks. Although the two asteroids are labeled differently, they are known to intersect Earth’s orbit as the planet makes its way around the Sun.
> CNEOS states 2020 EF is expected to fly past the Earth from a distance of 0.04241 astronomical units or approximately 4 million miles. Meanwhile, 2020 DP4 will approach Earth from a much closer distance which according to CNEOS, is only 0.00901 astronomical units or around 840,000 miles."
ive never seen a shooting star or meteroite for that matter
2020 EF already flew by, but 2020 DP4 is headed our way.
Flat because the North pole needs military clearance .
> Went up to the Tallest skyscraper to take pictures.
@Tian Fan Did you see France?
Nose hill sees Chestermere. Nose Hill sees Airdrie. Calgary tallest apartment sees the other tallest apartment.
There are multiple US military documents in regards to trajectory which say “assume flat earth.” The Bible has more than 200 references to the earth being stable and unmoved. It says “circle of the earth.” The Hebrew word for circle and ball/sphere are different.
Look at the UN’s map. That is more than likely correct.
Greek astronomers were aware almost 300 years before the time of Christ that the Earth was round.
This just happened on _The Edge_ discord server that replaced _The Wall_ server that vanished.
They ban for asking why others were banned.
It's great for their cause.
(Yes, they banned me for asking why someone else was banned. My entire interaction is right there in that screen shot 👆 )
Kay got me one.
The one she sent me seems expired now.
Does it say invalid for you, too?
I’d like to know who the owner of that server is, so we could have a chat.
@Deleted User make sure you screen shot everything often, because they are very ban happy.
It goes with their low IQ.
i'm a mod there
A scouting mission would probably be more prudent and fruitful, although a round of flying fists of fury would be fun.
Best is to just not try to police the mods, they get really triggered
Hi, Riggs. I didn’t police anyone. I simply was curious why the person conducting a 100% legitimate, civil conversation was banned.
If you were a mod that would be acceptable speech over there
otherwise it's deemed concern trolling
I don't agree with how the server is run, just relaying the culture
I doubt the mod cares about discussing his reasons with you, so probably just skip the effort
Thanks for the new invite.
Riggs, can you confirm if I was actually banned or only kicked?
That’s what I thought.
Who is the owner of that server?
You're obviously not civil by asking questions
It doesn’t really help their cause.
Hid the evidence also
Yeah, they deleted all the ban notifications, too.
I used to go back and read the historical posts in their old The Wall server. Now it makes sense that the posts were all very odd.
They ban so many people over there, deleting their posts, then also cleaning up any proof of their existence.
And they leave the original replies from other folks in place.
So when you go back and read anything, you’re getting 50% (or less) of the conversations.
Earth is a dodecahedron, bro. #provemewrong
👆 Click the Object link, which opens the JPL page. Then click Orbit Diagram. When the orbit diagram opens, click Earth (to recenter on Earth), then zoom with your scroll wheel. Now drag the map around with your mouse to see from varying angles how the object will pass by Earth.
Now do the same for 99942 Apophis (2004 MN4) 👇
Another one, pointed out by @Queen Of Conspiracy
_(if you look at my previous screen shot above, it's not in the list!---and I just made that screen shot yesterday!)_
That's WAY too close for comfort.
👆 Sorted by smallest AU on top.
Through the last 10 mins of this video, I can't tell who is arguing for which side.
The only one I saw act like a dick was the white guy.
But I missed the first hour of this, apparently.
It is difficult to believe that in 2020, folks are still debating this.
The female host of that stream just said, "Space is fake."
Perhaps she needs to choose her words more wisely.
I just hit replay on that above video that Riggs posted. It took them 25 minute to reach **ANY** content whatsoever that pertained to the title of this video. This is a complete shitshow.
Travis (the white guy) is a total jackass.
He doesn't even know the definition of density or weight.
Travis simply likes to hear himself talk. He wants to sound important.
He's not a thinker; he's a bullshit artist.
> Sean G (the black guy): _Travis, what is weight?_
> Travis (the white guy): _If a grain of rice is put onto a scale, it won't register._
> Sean G: _What causes a scale tell you your weight?_
> Travis: _The springs in the scale._
> Sean G: _Please tell us how a scale tells us what we weigh._
> Travis: _The mass of my body...consists of bone, plasma, hair...the amount of pressure that I place on that scale is going to register 210 pounds._
> Sean G: _In what direction is that pressure in?_
> Travis: _At the point of contact._
> Sean G: _In what direction?_
> Travis: :::yelling::: _AT THE POINT OF CONTACT!_
> Sean G: _The point of contact is not a direction, it is a location._
> Sean G: _In what direction?_
> Travis: _It's, it's, it's...if you...ahhh_
> Sean G: _If you put a scale on top of your head, what happens?_
> Travis: :::deflects, studders, mumbles:::
> Sean G: _If you take where your feet normally go, and put that spot on top of your head, and that scale registers numbers, what is that scale weighing?_
> Travis: _However much that scale weighs at that point of pressure._
> Sean G: _So what direction is the pressure, when you stand on a scale?_
> Travis: _Okay, whatever...at that point, it's above my head..._
> Sean G: _What direction does that scale register a weight?_
> Travis: _Below my feet._
> Sean G: _What direction does that scale register a weight?_
> Travis: _If you want me to say down, it's down._
> Sean G: _Thank you._
> Travis: :::yelling::: _IT'S DOWN!....YOU KNOW....UH..._
> Sean G: _Okay. Now we have already established that density doesn't have a vector._
> Travis: _No, we have not established that._
This is painful as hell to watch.
Travis has a room temperature IQ, no doubt.
OMG...Sean G just asked Travis what weighs more: a 10 pound bag of bricks, or a 10 pound bag of feathers.
Travis did not know the answer.
Okay, I'm stopping watching this complete garbage.
Travis doesn't even know what planet he's on.
That video gets to the point pretty quick
Flat earthers cannot even agree with each other on a model for a flat earth.
Boats disappear from the bottom up. I have seem this with my own eyes, sailing for weeks on the ocean.
Also, flat earthers have absolutely no legitimate explanation for gravity.
The moon is tidally locked to the earth. If the earth were flat, then why does everyone on earth always see the exact same picture of the moon, when looking at it? If earth were flat, then the pictures of it from different locations on the surface if the earth would also be different.
The voice of this guy talking in the video certainly sounds like that Travis moron from the previous video. He has already proven that he’s completely clueless and only wants to be argumentative.
Not a single flat earth model can predict or explain a solar or lunar eclipse.
No flat earth model can explain tides.
No flat earth model can explain known distances between cities on a map.
No flat earth model can explain why the sun doesn’t go down in the arctic, during some months of the year.
No flat earth model can explain seasons.
No flat earth model can explain satellites in orbit above earth.
No flat earth model can explain how GPS works.
Eratosthenes figured out that earth was round 2,000 years ago.
👆 It can be proven by simply using more than two locations, which flat earth cannot explain.
Is there a #SpaceIsFake chat
While standing within the Northern Hemisphere, the stars rotate a different direction than they do when standing within the Southern Hemisphere.
Also, I'm not saying the earth is flat, but most flat earth people are more about not trusting the elites because they lie quite a lot, at least this is what friends of mine in the Flat Earth movement have told me
One must not retard their intellect, in order to question something.
Yes this is true, but the actual Flat Earth movement started as a meme, like the Birds Are Fake movement
But then it developed into morons congregating
There are two kinds of flat earthers: the ones that sell the tee-shirts, and the ones that buy them.
So tell me who has an agenda.
Tell me who is lying.
I would buy a flat earth tee shirt, that's hilarious
Tell me who is manipulating whom.
You mean on a broader level or a more narrow level?
I'm not exactly sure what you're asking to be honest
If you're asking about manipulation I can tell you that the government lies about most things
Those that push the flat earth agenda are either part of those wishing to manipulate, or are too short-sighted to understand that they are being manipulated.
Governments lie. That is true.
Why would manipulation for the idea of the earth being flat need to occur? Who does that give power to?
It gives power to the manipulators.
But what can they do with that power?
Something like a few people following a crackpot theory about the earth actually being flat
How much power is that, and what can be done with it?
If enough cognitive dissonance can be sewn into the minds of those who refuse or are too dumb to understand, then those minds can be taken over with other crackpot ideas.
I suppose this is true, yes
The minds of the masses will become so muddied with the false ideas that the manipulators have imprinted upon them, that those manipulated persons will cease to be able to make good, intelligent, rational decisions.
And this happens while the manipulators see everything crystal clear.
How much power can be taken from a few morons?
The manipulators retain perfect cognitive thought processes, although evil to the core, while those being manipulated completely lose their ability to discern truth from fiction.
It would not be able to sustain a civilization, because a civilization needs intelligence to exist and evolve
A few morons are growing into many.
Like I said, many of them just distrust what they are told by the elites
Most of them are not moronic nor actually believe the earth is flat
You underestimate the minimal amount of morons required to be turned loose in the world , before the consequences are seen.
What consequences would that create?
That paves the way for civilization to go backwards.
Also, it does not matter if someone believes if the earth is flat, if that is the agenda they are pushing.
But in a way many conspiracy theories can be seen like this and none of them have had such consequences
For example I'm of the mind that that 9/11 was some kind of inside job
This is not about one or two manipulations occurring, it is 10,000 of them happening all at once.
There are those that wish to bring chaos into every aspect of your life.
Flat earth is only one pathway into the mind of those that either wish to join the manipulation, or those too stupid (not too ignorant, as ignorance can be cured with knowledge) to see the truth and therefore recognize the manipulation.
Things like YouTube act as a huge magnification lens. Those that wish to be manipulated get manipulated much, MUCH easier via YouTube.
Those that wish to seek knowledge do indeed find more knowledge than they could ever take in within their entire lifetime.
The problem is that many people do not have discernment.
Not only discernment to tell fact from fiction, but also discernment to take into consideration what impact these things do or do not have in their lives.
People become completely consumed with topics or ideas where either outcome should have very little to no impact on their lives.
And yet they allow their lives to be destroyed by it.
Now add 9,999 more of these manipulations to their situation.
There are live video feeds from space that show that the earth is a sphere, yet people don’t believe it.
There are endless calculations that have been done for 2,000 years, proving that the earth is a sphere.
Yet some jackass with a YouTube channel and tee shirts for sale can convince millions of people around the world that the earth is flat, **WITHOUT ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE**.
The devil is truly at work.
That’s what this all boils down to.
You have a lot of anger
Might wanna look into that first
Just forget all the YouTube stuff. Start here
Flat earth isnt a youtube-centric thing
It's literally the original cosmology
It's the wheel of cosmologies
_A lot of anger_, eh? Is that your ‘professional’ opinion, @Rigg5? I'm stumped as to how you could come to that conclusion. I've reread all of my own postings, since you posted that Sean G vs. Travis debate video (yes, I quoted your posting of it in <#627030086964740096>, then I moved it here). I see no indication of anger from me whatsoever. Did you perhaps read what I posted while unintentionally still having an unnecessary e-rage filter installed on your input channel? Perhaps your inputs need a bit of cleaning or other maintenance, or perhaps they were simply mis-calibrated. Perhaps you simply don't know what anger is.
My replies are still up there 👆 , so please feel free to go read them again without the e-rage input filter installed. I mean, unless you also go by the name Travis and have a penchant for guys named Sean G. to make you look like an imbecile on live YouTube streams, then there should be no reason for a third party to make any strange leap in the direction that you have. In the event that you are Travis, please just go ahead and confirm it for me now. I'm confident that you'll be better off in the end.
Continuing to set the chat about earth aside for just another brief moment, why are you trying to cast a certain shade of light onto me, with this obviously false accusation of anger that you've made? I find it very interesting that you choose a personal offensive attack against me, rather than a discussion about the topic at hand. Why did you not initially choose instead to support or deny my statements about a flat earth model being incapable of explaining the many line items that I listed right off the top of my head? Are you Travis?
Now, regarding the link you posted of Hickson's _Kings dethroned_ book, perhaps you didn't know that this book has been entirely debunked. (Or perhaps you did know, but you were hoping that I did not…) The content within this book was considered so spectacularly wrong, that in 1989 it was classified by the archivists at MIT as a member of their "Nut Collection". In case you’re wondering what that means, it is a loving term for useless research that has absolutely **NO BEARING** on the scientific community.
Maybe the archivists at MIT have _a lot of anger that they might want to look into_, too.
> Hickson’s work is not alone in that collection, but it certainly stands out for its spectacular inaccuracy and the high degree of hubris it displays. Today’s, Hickson’s view (and his prideful certainty) that the earth is quite close to the sun, is considered almost laughable. Indeed, it may even sit aside other erroneous theories such as that old view that the earth is flat. However, what makes Hickson’s views more easily criticized is that he was working in a time with access to more data and better scientific equipment to avoid such erroneous conclusions. Further, Hickson was indeed overly prideful when he wrote his work and it makes his own inaccuracy all the much more ironic. He had proclaimed that his work would dethrone the great ‘kings’ of the field. However, their reigns were left solidly in tact and rather than sitting atop his own throne, he is considered to have no relevance in the field (aside from being a footnote example of faulty findings).
> As a modern reader, with sometimes limited time, you may wonder if you should put forth the effort to read Kings Dethroned. In many cases, yes you should make the time. The book is iconic for putting forth erroneous information and it does highlight the hubris of a man who thought he had it all figured out. If you are in the field of science, why not read a book that will broaden your understanding for the field and the scope of its history. Hickson’s work should not just be a footnote of inaccuracy, it should be considered as a work that does have a place in the history of the development of the field of astronomy. When you read the book King’s Dethroned, you may find yourself sometimes feeling astonished at Hickson’s thought processes, conclusions, and written statements. Read it as a bit of scientific history. Read it as a source of entertainment. Read it so you have some fun trivia to share at parties. Finally, read it as a warning against exercising any similar levels of hubris in your own scientific work.
It is not surprising that flat earthers consider Gerrard Hickson, the overconfident, arrogant, blundering idiot that he was, to be their godfather.
Im sorry, i missed any of the evidence in that monologue
Evidence of what?
You posted a video.
I addressed the video.
You gave me a personal attack, then linked to a debunked book.
Now you ask me for evidence of some kind.
I posted a friends debate stream because i was being nice
Perhaps you need to learn how to communicate.
I suppose it doesn't matter which one was your friend.
But I was under the impression that you wanted folks to see the content of said stream, then comment and discuss it.
Was I mistaken?
Ahh yes that video. It presented evidence. Did you watch it?
Given the fact that I commented on the first 25 minutes of the video, then transcribed at least several additional minutes of the video, that would indeed be evidence that I watched at least 30+ minutes of the video.
Did you miss the part where I typed words here?
or did you simply launch into your personal attack without even reading what I had written?
Your tone is so disgruntled i probably missed it.
My apologies. Nearly all of my above posts from just a few minutes ago only apply to the video between Sean G and Travis.
Regarding the video you originally posted and just reposted a few minutes ago, I have only skipped through it , watching approximately 2-3 minutes of it so far.
I have still only been able to view a few minutes of this above video between minutes 1 through 6.
So far, pointing out that a test might have been flawed would only prove that a test might have been flawed.
Regarding the power line masts going across Lake Pontchartrain:
(the pic below is an animated gif.)
👆 CGI rendering of the power line masts that follow the curvature of the earth, over the top of a picture taken.
Looks like a damn near perfect example of proof of earth's curvature.
Here is a pretty good earth curvature calculator, in case you didn't see it already:
(enable Java and click ENGLISH, unless you also write Cyrillic)
I have no idea what that helicopter disappearing below the horizon business is all about, and I'm not going to dissect it. I don't consider much of anything coming from the Discovery Channel to not include some percentage of bullshit, either accidentally or intentionally.
Next, how difficult can it be to find 24 hour time-lapse footage of the sun never going down in Antarctica?
False premise comes to mind.
Instead of using broken time-lapse footage of Antarctica, claiming that because the footage is broken, that means the sun must go down, why not just find unbroken footage?
That took me less than 30 seconds to find that video, and less than 4 minutes to witness at least two full 24 hour, unbroken turns of the sun. The sun doesn't go down in Antarctica, during parts of the year.
On the other side of the globe, in Alaska's northernmost village, Barrow, far above the Arctic Circle, the sun doesn't set for 84 days.
Also notice that the shadows in the Antarctica Midnight Sun 24-Hour Time Lapse video are all very long or very, very long.
Lastly, using a Netflix movie from 2013 as proof that the sun doesn't go down, based solely on their choice of when to splice the loop is a problem.
**SEVEN YEARS** it took you to find that bad splice video and now claim it as bullet-proof evidence of something other than a clip from a movie.
Then an additional time lapse video from 2015 was used that had text overlays for North, West, South, and East. The starburst effect was perhaps dressed up, but the watch was clearly not fake. Besides the text and starburst overlay, you can't prove a damn thing was fake in that video.
Why didn't you also include the part at the end of this 2015 original video that shows the secondary time lapse camera capturing time lapse pictures of the primary time lapse camera following the sun automatically and snapping photos to create the original video with? Quite telling that it's left out, isn't it? The wrist watch is clearly visible spinning around in front of the primary camera, even though the deceptive narrator **CLEARLY** says that _"the wrist watch is a computer graphic"_.
How about this: Since I'm 100% certain that the creator of the Globebusters YouTube video you posted **KNEW** about the evidence that he conveniently left out at the end of that 2015 video, he has completely discredited himself, and thusly, the entire video. In for a penny, in for a pound, eh? Don't lie honest people and they won't know you as a liar.
👇 Below is the 2015 video that your boy conveniently left out the footage of the secondary camera filming the primary one, with the wrist watch in clear view.
> In the summer time at Scott Base the sun is above the horizon for 4 months, from roughly the end of the third week of October until the end of the third week of February. This shows the movement of the sun over a full 24 hour period near the peak of summer.
> Camera was set to take a photo once every one minute and one second (so that the second hand would be moving) should have made it 1min and 2 secs so the send hand would move faster than the minute hand in retrospect. ISO 100, 100th sec exposure. Lens was set on f22 to get enough depth of field to have the watch and horizon both in focus, hence the sun-ray effect. A modified Orion equatorial telescope mount was used to track the sun. Camera and tracking powered by solar panel and batteries.
> To see what the sun does at the actual South Pole, check out this video by Robert Schwarz: https://vimeo.com/208466944
> P.S. Flat Earth people, you are very entertaining with your comments. My challenge to you: put your money where your mouth is and book a cruise ship holiday to Antarctica below the Antarctic circle to prove the video wrong. I'll even reimburse the cost of your trip if you can prove the sun does not do this as shown in this video... Edit: Years later, cue sound of crickets, despite 40,000 tourists and thousands of researchers and workers going to Antarctica every year, no one has taken me up on this offer.
It's funny as hell, because only after posting the text 👆 under the 2015 video on YouTube did I just now read the post script, calling out the Flat Earth people with the entertaining comments. Bold for emphasis absolutely fucking added:
> Flat Earth people, you are very entertaining with your comments. My challenge to you: put your money where your mouth is and book a cruise ship holiday to Antarctica below the Antarctic circle to prove the video wrong. **I'll even reimburse the cost of your trip if you can prove the sun does not do this as shown in this video... Edit: Years later, cue sound of crickets, despite 40,000 tourists and thousands of researchers and workers going to Antarctica every year, no one has taken me up on this offer.**
I few more nails in the coffin of that idiotic Globebusters flat earth "proof" video.
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