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May Allah guide everyone here and grant everyone a place in Jannah al Firdaws. May all your sins be forgiven, may you have respect in your household and a good life. May Allah grant every single one of you with Aqlaq and may the kuffar never manage to force you to do anything. May all tests that Allah give you be done elegantly so that you will be proud on judgement day. May your families be guided and may you succeed in this life and in the hereafter. Ameen.
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Stupid to have a "hold my beer" intro message in a Muslim Discord. Nobody here drinks alcohol.
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Gas the kikes
Race War Now
reminder
shia are kaffir
Even a Jew is better, at least they are monotheistic
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Post rare Devons so I can add some good emotes
make a subserverr called rare devons
I'll post my publically released devons
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assalamu alaikum
Wa Alaykum asalam wa rahmetullahi wa barakatu
Wa alaykum salam
splash from Durkastan?
no no
im not from durakastan
i joined durkastan after joining this
i was scrolling through random posts on twitter and found devons twitter so i decided to join his server
Same.
What is durkastan?
A muslim server.
Oh man... Shame that I never been invited to it.
Now it's your lucky day!
I could send you the link.
muslim chat is probably best server tbh
It's too big though. It has a group for nerds and programming though.
muslim chat isnt too big
i mean it has a lot of ppl
but not all are active
@Heftipod please send link bro
@Deleted User walaikum assalam wa ramatullah wa barakatu
Sure.
jazak Allah khair brother
brother H2k you should be more active in muslim chat server too i see you only sent 4 msgs
yeah it just seems theres a lot going in there
so i just am trying to find a place to jump in
the smaller ones seem easier to navigate since i am still kinda new to discord
ohhh
hmm you should just jump right into the convo tbh if there is one going on
i will brother- thanks for the advice
no problem :)
Why do you keep leaving and rejoining <:Thonking:484527546533281794> @David "Ram Ranch" Vincent
bean that redditor
he has a Richard and Mortimer profile pic
cuz i can
bacon is good.
If y'all keep joining and leaving you're getting banned
>eats food that lowers his sperm levels
TOP SOY
Pork products, especially bacon, is super unhealthy for people
It was made haraam for a reason alhamdulillah
@Jacob ๐ but even if it was healthy it would still be bad to eat it because it is sinful. If they design a super healthy variant in the lab it would still be haram. It is not due to health that we avoid it. The health aspect is just an extra bonus blessing.
Look at this tweet by the Israeli PM bragging about slaughtering the weak and embracing the pagan "the strong do what they want and the weak suffer what they must" morality that they consider better than Abrahamic morality. https://twitter.com/IsraeliPM/status/1034849460344573952?s=19
when you can't tell if a quote comes from Himmler or the State of Israel, you might have a problem
Beware of the eternal hellfire, kaffir.
>Makes an entire account to own muzzies!
Get OWNED sand bois!
>Sides with the people who own him and control his countryโs politics to own the muzzies
Gtfo Hebrew puppet
May Allah curse that kaffir swine
Ameen
Should probably add another step and maybe make some more people admin.
Yeah, I'll try to do that later tonight inshallah
Inshaallah. Barakallahu fikh for removing that kaffir. What an eyesore, may he live a horrible life. Ameen.
Ameen
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I can't believe that there is people on twitter who are unapologetically madkallis. As if it wasn't completely degenerate.
>he can't refute 10 groups in 10 minutes
I wouldn't say IslamQA is Madkhali
True. Islamqa is good.
What's a madkhali? A saudi fixated sect?
What
Yes basically @Deleted User
A Madkhali is someone who pretty much blindfollows Rabee al Madkhali, sides with al Albani in the jins al amal controversy, has bad manners towards their fellow Muslims, but is polite towards kuffar.
Wow it's the average protestant since the split
Madkhalis have done some pretty good work though, but the problem is they're pretty much a cult, you're either with or against them
The Madkhali relationship with Al Saud reminds me of Orthodox Christians and the Putin regime. They love their leader and disobeying said ruler makes you a deviant or even an apostate depending on who you talk to even tho said ruler dosent obey by the religion except in outward appearance.
obedience to the al saud is a notable characteristic of madkhalis but not exclusive to madkhalis, it's generally just common for scholars in autocratic states where all information in general is controlled by the state.
of course though being some british guy making takfeer on other teenage british kids for speaking against al saud is a bit absurd.
@Jacob ๐ russian orthodox maybe
Yeah
@...new what is the jins Al amal controversy
@Jacob ๐ the orthodox Church even bless people like Stalin who made the orthodox church illegal and gave the death penalty to whoever practiced it. That is what mindlessly following a ruler means.
Yeah exactly. ...new once sent a photo album of ROC priests blessings the most random things ever it was pretty funny
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The jins al amal controversy is an intersalafi debate about basically irjaa. For example if a person does not pray at all, yet he belives prayer is obligatory and he is committing a major sin by not praying, is he a Muslim? The standard answer given by the najdi dawah is of course not. This relates to another, more controversial and thus more talked about issue, if a ruler puts in place a law that isn't shariah, but he belives inwardly that the shariah is better and it is obligatory to rule by shariah, is he a Muslim? Again the standard answer given by the najdi dawah is of course not.
The Madkhalis, following the lead of al Albani, took the other view, yes they are Muslim. I would say the salafi movement itself is pretty split on this, but what I call the najdi dawah isn't, Salih al Fawzan, Salih al Luhaydan, Abdurrahman bin Nasir al Barrack, Grand Mufti Abdulaziz aal ash Shaykh all still give the standard answer that the najdi dawah always had. However while the other opinion is based on irjaa, we don't call those who try to be salafi in everything but fall into an issue here and there murjis or innovators, it is only that their opinion is from irjaa.
Some people took this issue to label Madkhalis as "Neo-Salafis" or "Salafiyyah Jadeedah", which is probably fair tbh.
I'm not a scholar but from what I do know, both of those cases would be a nullifier of Islam <:Thonking:484527546533281794>
that's the opinion I have found to have the most evidence
Not always that a ruler is able to do it. For example Erdogan would be removed from government straight away if he punished thieves by cutting off the hand. Even if he might want the law. The millitary is still fairly degenerate there. It is like the opposite of Pakistan where the millitary is religious and the government (usually, not so sure now with the new guy) have hated Islam. Where it is impossible the best a leader can do is to get as close as possible.
So it's like 4D chess
The najdis already take that into account and state that a person isn't responsible for what he isn't capable of.
So if a person enters into a disbelieving government, and he genuinely tries to rule by the shariah in what he can, this person isn't a kafir
Hasn't Erdogan said before tho that he doesn't want an Islamic State
I'm not sure if he's used those exact words, but he's certainly called to secularism many times
Had Erdogan not explicitly called to secularism I wouldn't make takfeer on him
Yeah, I get not being able to fully implement shariah but actively promoting secularism sounds like kufr to me
There may be other kufr Erdogan is guilty of, but that is the only one I know for sure that I can pin him on
There's also the fact that he seems to betray the Mujahideen in Syria
@Jacob ๐ well, if he doesn't say it then he would be removed from power. A leader has to do it, it is illegal for politicians to say that they want sharia.
But that's not kufr afaik
@Jacob ๐ yes he seems to betray the mujahedeen. That seems to be the worst to me.
Would it really get him removed tho? I mean, after that coup a couple years ago I imagine he has quite a bit of power
when you're on TV in Egypt and you say "Muslims shouldn't be afraid of secularism" or willingly say something like "secularism means the government having equal distance from all religions, this is what we want", I can't really excuse that. If he just sheepishly one time answered a tv interview with something like 'Turkey is a secular state by it's constitution and I will uphold that' that I can excuse.
@Jacob ๐ yes it would, because it is the law. He would have to change the constitution due to the obvious kaffir ataturk who made such a degeneracy.
Yes but it's not illegal to call for a reform in the Turkish constitution tho is it?
@...new if what you say is true then sure, I haven't really followed it that closely.
I mean maybe it's the American in me but I'd imagine constitutions change quite often in the grand scheme of things
@Jacob ๐ if it is a reform towards a more religious government, yes it is.
Interesting
Anyone who is religious need to be very careful with their words. There have been tons of coups because people want atheist rule.
>there are people in turkey who want homosexual rule
Erdogan needs to hire some assassins and do a purge
I've certainly never pulled off a coup before but I imagine if you can win over a couple generals it isn't the hardest thing in the world
he did survive a coup
I'm not knowledgeable enough on the situation in Turkey to say for sure but I feel like if he really wanted to establish the shariah in Turkey he could be doing a bit more than he currently is
@Jacob ๐ he probably could. May Allah guide the Turkish people and government and remove the atheist state.
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ameen
inshallah turkey will be disbanded and replaced with a Sultanate
Turkey will be replaced by a Caliphate.
InshaAllah.
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but seriously he shouldnt have done that maybe they could have changed their minds later in their lives now they are gonna hate islam even more
I don't know what they said though. God guides who he wants, just because they are ignorant it is not a blank cheque to say anything they want. The brother will be judged according to his intentions on judgement day, but violence does make it less likely that kuffar talks shit. Look at how the Muhammad caricature competition was cancelled. Would not be done without it.
The brother sacrificed himself so that the rest of us will be less likely to deal with this. If this always happened then none of the kuffar would dare. They are not muslims, they are afraid of death.
True you are right there should be respect the muslim should be proud in front of the kuffar and softwith other believers
And even if a Muslim makes a mistake we ought to assume it was meant in the best way possible. May Allah bless him and make things easy for him and grant him access to Jannah Al Firdaws. Ameen.
amen
Israel made ISIS to make the non muslims hate us, think we're all terrorists, think we hate non muslims, think we hate gays, think we oppress women etc when this is not true. I'm a Muslim and proud American and Islam is a religion of peace, Isis don't represent me. All my best friends are non Muslims, Isis are just extremists who misunderstand the religion, unlike me, I never pray or fast or anything but I understand the true Islam. It makes me cry when non Muslims think I'm a terrorist. I wish non Muslims would like me so much, please like me white people please
hah LGBT secular "please accept me" "muslims"
@Jacob ๐ did you ever make some sort of verification before we get another kaffir with blasphemous name here?
Well ISIS is obviously some mossad front for whatever ZOG plans they have. But sodomy is a sin, and removal of thottery and adultery should not be confused with "oppressing women" after all, are THOTs even woman considering their behavior?
A woman is a good wife and mother, she is not oppressed she is the center of the household. The THOT is a plague upon society that destroys it. To oppress the THOT is to oppress that which harms life itself.
Everything is ISIS to the LGBT crowd though.
I've got some verification and deleted all of the invites except for mine and Timur's but if it happens again I'll create a vetting channel and probably recruit a few mods
>Well ISIS is obviously some mossad front for whatever ZOG plans they have
why are Al-Qaeda, ISIS and other Sunni terrorist organizations, and even basically every Sunni organization in the world who does not agree with the Shiite ideology and religion are framed as 'Zionist products', while brutal and inhuman terrorist organizations such as Hezbollah, who are massacring and raping thousands of Syrians, and other Shiite terrorist factions who are raping and murdering the Sunnis in Iraq to be 'glorious freedom fighters' ?
Hezbollah never fought America directly, ISIS, Al-Qaeda have been fighting America for nearly 30 years and are still doing so, but miraculously Hezbollah is not considered to be 'American Agents' but ISIS and Al-Qaeda, the terrorist organizations who have killed tens of thousands of American soldiers are labelled as 'American Agents'. Isn't that fishy ?
It's part of Iran's propaganda of being the axis of resistance, so since Iran is always anti-USA and Israel (which I agree Iran is actually anti-Israel), that somehow makes anyone they fight on the same side of Zionism
@...new I really hate that Saudi Arabia is so pro-Israel and America. They are supposed to represent Muslims, being the protectors of the kaaba. It is a big moral victory for Iran. Israel should not be there.
Both are degenerate deviants. Hezbollah is just funded by Iran and not the CIA
however many Syrian rebel groups are legitimate freedom fighters and reject kufr ideologies from America
@Timur True, may Allah bless them all and forgive them all sins so that they turn up on judgement day without sin. Ameen
No matter what, the people of haqq are victorious. They either get to die as Shaheed or the kuffar dies. They will never experience a real loss, but we might lose those wonderful people.
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@carlos That degenerate satanist.
yea indeed he's a sort of pagan or somethin but I uploaded his face because of the guy on the reddit screenshot
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@carlos Yeah I know the meme.
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@carlos you know he used to rob graves (to get human bones for satanic rituals), burn churches and killed his friend?
I knew he used to burn churches and he killed a guy for some reasons and planted a knife in his skull
However I didn't know he used to rob graves to do satanic rituals damn that's fucked up
Where did you see that ?
who dis guy?
@carlos actually a local police station has some of his skulls and bones on display.
@Will Dee Varg Vikernes
A sort of pagan anti christianity dude
@carlos I in Oslo where he did these things. One of his band mates shot himself in the face and they collected bits of his skull to use as jewelery.
Really like a police station has tat kind of thing on display ?
Ok shit what the hell
How do you know that ?
I see he is from Norway just like you
@carlos Yes, I know that because that is what they said. Mayhem (his old band) has an ep where the cover is a picture of their bandmate after he had shot himself in the face with a shotgun and Euronimous (the guy Varg killed) collected the skull fragments and made jewelery that they gave to some of their fans.
Ok I see one of them is Euronymous
So they were some sort of Black metal loving satanists
@carlos same city I live in. Satanic metal is like the main cultural export from Norway. They were one of the first black metal bands.
The other guy in the picture (called Dead) was the guy who shot himself in the face
Man norvegians are edgy
Ok I see I didn't know that
You seem to know a lot about them
Did you follow them/listen to them before ?
Never been a fan
Okok
Always hated the black metal scene even as a kaffir, but many people I know listened to them.
can't understand how can some people listen to that it hurts the ears their music is only screaming like an autismo
Burning churches used to be very common in Norway... Happened all the time.
I see they're attached to their pagan past
kind of like vikings who did the same in the middle age and who were raping and pillaging across europe
I mean in the 90s while these guys were big
and now it has calmed right
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