Message from @Firkant

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2018-08-31 18:44:02 UTC  

Beware of the eternal hellfire, kaffir.

2018-08-31 18:45:18 UTC  
2018-08-31 19:04:56 UTC  

>Makes an entire account to own muzzies!
Get OWNED sand bois!

2018-08-31 19:05:06 UTC  

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2018-08-31 19:09:25 UTC  

>Sides with the people who own him and control his countryโ€™s politics to own the muzzies

Gtfo Hebrew puppet

2018-08-31 19:09:29 UTC  

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2018-08-31 19:26:45 UTC  

May Allah curse that kaffir swine

2018-08-31 19:53:19 UTC  

Ameen

2018-08-31 19:53:46 UTC  

Should probably add another step and maybe make some more people admin.

2018-08-31 19:54:05 UTC  

Yeah, I'll try to do that later tonight inshallah

2018-08-31 19:55:36 UTC  

Inshaallah. Barakallahu fikh for removing that kaffir. What an eyesore, may he live a horrible life. Ameen.

2018-08-31 19:56:44 UTC  

Ameen

2018-08-31 20:00:52 UTC  

ameen

2018-09-01 16:53:27 UTC  

2018-09-03 06:16:25 UTC  

I can't believe that there is people on twitter who are unapologetically madkallis. As if it wasn't completely degenerate.

2018-09-03 09:31:59 UTC  

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2018-09-03 14:59:19 UTC  

>he can't refute 10 groups in 10 minutes

2018-09-03 15:09:29 UTC  

I wouldn't say IslamQA is Madkhali

2018-09-03 15:12:16 UTC  

True. Islamqa is good.

2018-09-03 18:36:50 UTC  

What's a madkhali? A saudi fixated sect?

2018-09-03 18:37:56 UTC  

What

2018-09-03 18:46:23 UTC  

Yes basically @Deleted User

2018-09-03 18:46:27 UTC  

A Madkhali is someone who pretty much blindfollows Rabee al Madkhali, sides with al Albani in the jins al amal controversy, has bad manners towards their fellow Muslims, but is polite towards kuffar.

2018-09-03 18:48:28 UTC  

Wow it's the average protestant since the split

2018-09-03 18:50:37 UTC  

Madkhalis have done some pretty good work though, but the problem is they're pretty much a cult, you're either with or against them

2018-09-03 18:53:13 UTC  

The Madkhali relationship with Al Saud reminds me of Orthodox Christians and the Putin regime. They love their leader and disobeying said ruler makes you a deviant or even an apostate depending on who you talk to even tho said ruler dosent obey by the religion except in outward appearance.

2018-09-03 18:59:22 UTC  

obedience to the al saud is a notable characteristic of madkhalis but not exclusive to madkhalis, it's generally just common for scholars in autocratic states where all information in general is controlled by the state.
of course though being some british guy making takfeer on other teenage british kids for speaking against al saud is a bit absurd.

2018-09-03 19:11:07 UTC  

@Jacob ๐Ÿ•‹ russian orthodox maybe

2018-09-03 19:11:26 UTC  

Yeah

2018-09-03 19:25:44 UTC  

@...new what is the jins Al amal controversy

2018-09-03 19:27:11 UTC  

@Jacob ๐Ÿ•‹ the orthodox Church even bless people like Stalin who made the orthodox church illegal and gave the death penalty to whoever practiced it. That is what mindlessly following a ruler means.

2018-09-03 19:28:00 UTC  

Yeah exactly. ...new once sent a photo album of ROC priests blessings the most random things ever it was pretty funny

2018-09-03 19:30:25 UTC  

๐Ÿ˜‚

2018-09-03 19:34:25 UTC  

The jins al amal controversy is an intersalafi debate about basically irjaa. For example if a person does not pray at all, yet he belives prayer is obligatory and he is committing a major sin by not praying, is he a Muslim? The standard answer given by the najdi dawah is of course not. This relates to another, more controversial and thus more talked about issue, if a ruler puts in place a law that isn't shariah, but he belives inwardly that the shariah is better and it is obligatory to rule by shariah, is he a Muslim? Again the standard answer given by the najdi dawah is of course not.
The Madkhalis, following the lead of al Albani, took the other view, yes they are Muslim. I would say the salafi movement itself is pretty split on this, but what I call the najdi dawah isn't, Salih al Fawzan, Salih al Luhaydan, Abdurrahman bin Nasir al Barrack, Grand Mufti Abdulaziz aal ash Shaykh all still give the standard answer that the najdi dawah always had. However while the other opinion is based on irjaa, we don't call those who try to be salafi in everything but fall into an issue here and there murjis or innovators, it is only that their opinion is from irjaa.

2018-09-03 19:36:03 UTC  

Some people took this issue to label Madkhalis as "Neo-Salafis" or "Salafiyyah Jadeedah", which is probably fair tbh.

2018-09-03 19:37:12 UTC  

I'm not a scholar but from what I do know, both of those cases would be a nullifier of Islam <:Thonking:484527546533281794>

2018-09-03 19:40:27 UTC  

that's the opinion I have found to have the most evidence

2018-09-03 19:40:43 UTC  

Not always that a ruler is able to do it. For example Erdogan would be removed from government straight away if he punished thieves by cutting off the hand. Even if he might want the law. The millitary is still fairly degenerate there. It is like the opposite of Pakistan where the millitary is religious and the government (usually, not so sure now with the new guy) have hated Islam. Where it is impossible the best a leader can do is to get as close as possible.

2018-09-03 19:40:45 UTC  

So it's like 4D chess

2018-09-03 19:41:39 UTC  

The najdis already take that into account and state that a person isn't responsible for what he isn't capable of.