Same as the book of Lord Shang

There is Zen and the art of motorcycle repair.

Lol @A-B rebel Good shit. Nothing more empowering to my beliefs then seing liberals screaming at the sky thinking it would have any effect

Seeing them fall falt

Man, that feeling when you take a massive dump at the end of your working day.

yeah dude

hit me up when you're free bro

@The Tradesman Its like reverse Anal. You already training for yo life with a tranny? <:dbd:480186132298989569>

Hahahaha)

This is the best time for being a MGTOW

Appreciate this))

lol

@Mysteriedingens What is that profile picture?

it's my eye m8. feel observed?

U WOT M8

ikr i let down my aryan family roots

lol

@ColdEmbraceOfDeath @mysteriedingens I was mainly referring to people's general fear of commitment nowadays

People still get into relationships.

Can't really say if it's a general fear.

Well, projecting fear into that kinda thing appears to be rising. In the West, anyway.

So mgtow also stands for anti marriage? Or is it a personal preference?

And differs?

Yeah, kind of.

There are some guys who are like that, the majority I guess are just on a marriage strike.

MGTOW, the movement in itself is definitely defined by not binding yourself into eternal monogamie until you get cheated on

that includes marriages

So y'all fundamentally believe women cheat in marriages and relationships and that puts you off?

No, but marriage is unnatural and will definitely have consequences because of that, read the article i posted in <#493528742941949952>

Most of them would, given that they have options and that they have no negative consequences for doing so.

A lot of things are unnatural, doesn't mean they are bad. If you want a functional society or a family unit that is held together, you need something like a marriage.

A functional society means working for gynocentrism nowadays

Traditionalist societies with male authorities are still gynocentric.

without the oportunity to display your opinion openly without being teared down by the major political group against you

What societies are you referring to?

All societies of the past pretty much.

ancient greeks?

How were they gynocentric?

All of them, not just the greeks. India used to be that way, rome used to be that way.

i dont find anything gynocentric in the greeks to be honest.

Because you still are disposable and still pandering to women, doing most of the shit work and getting crap in return.

Sure... Worshipped for being able to produce life. Ain't nothing wrong with that. But other than that?

If you are taking the protective instinct of men as gynocentric, thats wrong. When they go to war, they defend their property. women were their property

An arrangement that benefits the woman more than the man is gynocentric.

I mean what do women offer than being able to have kids? Do they still need to be provided for even after that phase of utility?

Now that inspires the question as to when you would consider an arrangement between a man and a woman as more beneficial for the man

Something that brings in net gain, money wise or utility wise.

Taking kids out of the equation there isn't much utility, most of what they can do has been simplified in the present.

A woman can push you to be productive and produce. Thats why i dont neccesarily think shortterm-Monogamy is to be thrown upon. Companionship and intimacy is healthy. Just dont bind yourself to anything and dont date something hard to handle

You can be productive without a woman.

You have your friends for that.

Yes, i know. I was referring to ancient times with this particular point

Well, they are also raising your kids, aren't they? Also, have you any idea what women go through in the whole process from sex 'til giving birth?

If having kids was so bad and it was a negative thing, why do women have multiple kids? The body builds pain tolerance to handle labor and their bodies are designed to do so?

Well, people who have never had kids are much happier than the ones that do have kids, so what's the point? And women make horrible parents by themselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJGdw20pNgQ

@Artemis has a point there, but with our government at the moment, they are given the ability to get support even when betraying their male providers.. that explains single motherhood

Because the pain is worth it to them in the end, generally speaking.

Lol.

Horrible parents how?

Look at how single mothers are vs. how single fathers are.

Which gender do you think is the more emotional and neurotic gender? Do you want them to raise the next generation?

How do you think society is now vs. how it used to be when the father figure had some value?

The pain isn't that much. Body build pain tolerance in a woman on the months leading up to labor.

Lol, women get painkillers when giving birth btw

Just another crap women tell themselves.

C sections exist as well.

@Mysteriedingens well, yea. Women are often manipulative devils. Nothing new. That's the part of mgtow that led me here.

Being upset doesn't change it.

The best they can do is switch to another platform.

@Flushtater You should be.

Possibly some P2P platform, something that is decentralized, in the case that they come after platforms that are centralized that allow for this stuff in the name of hate speech.

Yes, redpill got quarantined on reddit a few days ago.

@ColdEmbraceOfDeath so you are suggesting men should raise the next generation (alone)?
Also, emotions certainly don't have to necessarily be in the way of a good parent. Au contraire; they can be used for a very essential ingredient in raising kids.

the only success we had recently was gettig Tommy Robinson out of prison lately.

Reasoning is much better than emotional thinking and being a requires you to do shit that is necessary even if it feels bad.

Yes, men can raise them alone. Women raise babies to being kids, after that point on from being a teen to an adult, they're better off with the father.

Things don't always get better.

I know that under certain circumstances, painkillers are available for giving birth. First of all though, they don't do _that_ much and second, the worst part are the contractions before the actual processof giving birth. There are no pain medications for that

@Artemis Their devilish nature is created by the artificial independency. @the adventures male often says that. As soon as a collapse happens, women come crawling after the most secure spot and partner

C Section has many shitty side effects

They do quite a bit and that is sufficient, not sure if they don't do that much, I mean local anesthetics are giving for surgery even.

Do you think women don't over identify with their Emotions?

Corporatism is a thing, Absolute free market isn't something that can be true in every circumstance.

You are at least free to buy shit that you want.

Sucks but it is what it is.

Roosh V should probably just have his own store for his books.

I mean even if it's on Amazon, you still have to seek it out.

The key is not to be controlled by your emotions. Other than that I think they are definitely useful and make all this bull worth living really. So if you got that down and are capable of recognizing when you are letting yourself be controlled by an emotion, what is so wrong with it? @Flushtater

I'm with what MysteriedIngens said before

women are no longer dependent on men because of our social construct

as such, their biological behaviour is out of whack

and it makes them unreliable

@Flushtater They Key to overcoming that is also, as i noticed in myself, having options. Since i started playing piano on top of work, weightlifting and kickboxing i feel more content. I have a fallback in case i get injured doing sports

That's right

different rates, but all are ticking time bombs

just because a woman is faithful, doesn't mean she'll stay that way

My great grandfather on my father's side is unknown

hahahaha

but he injected some engineering talent into the bloodline