(DM) Thomas & Tyler CT & Vincent TX & NQ - Henry MA
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He passed all his fitness tests except the mile run. He also wears massive glasses which might night be best on shields. I'll be using contacts for the next march
His fitness is not an issue
He cannot defend himself well that would be my problem with it
Anyone else that we could use? For screens?
If you absolutely need bodies then you can put him on screens, he'll need more work is all.
There is also Phillip MA, big guy you all know him, but he's a tenacious fighter and uses his body to advantage
I want that so bad for philip
Is he really there yet though? Would be such a rags to riches story.
I don't think he'll have the stamina for the running involved :(
Thought so...
Yes for screen team, with the running, it would beat him up
@Tyler CT Grant MD will be on mumble at 9 PM tonight to teach us to be hackers
Reprogramming signs and such
ok, cool
@Tyler CT You send the Gear list out yet?
Yes, I did that last night
I wonder should we save our treasury for something possibly more important? If we collect 10 a head for that next Thursday then everyone is bearing the banner burden equally and we still have our treasury for something more stressing than banner construction.
No cost that the treasury pays will be evenly distributed amongst our members. I don't think we should focus on building up those funds over a long period of time. If we have a sudden expense, we can raise money for that when it happens. As Thomas said, our Network savings exists in each of our own pockets.
I wonder what the purpose is of having the treasury then. Only a few people bear the burden of cost toward activism.
Balancing even distribution of cost with the means each member has to give must be the goal. The treasury, used in this way does not fulfill this
Some costs, like our travel costs in December, are being distributed. I don't see a problem with allowing some people to contribute a bit more in a formal and consistent way.
I don't think any cost should be wholly covered by the treasury at any point. I agree we shouldn't let the treasury grow beyond its purposes, but it is antithetical to who we are to cover entire costs between just a few people. How about this: part of the treasury will go towards banner construction, but we still ask for a small collection next Thursday. We pay half the banner materials from treasury, half from collection, Only $5 added on to what our guys need to bring Thursday night
$75 from treasury
$60 from collection
The remaining $15 I will eat
This will mean I'll have to send out another round of messages to everyone. That alone, I think makes this plan not worth-while since it makes us look unorganized. I think we may be solving a problem that doesn't exist. Going forward, we can treat the treasury your way, but for for this event, it's probably best to stick to the plan.
I agree for this. But in the future let's have the treasury make more frequent smaller contributions to only partly pay for anything. Though the treasury is small now, in the future should this concept grow, the way in which we treat the treasury and the idea with which we use it will characterize how our network operates down the line. We must take care to prevent the treasury from becoming a sole source of funds for anything. All members must share each burden in some way. Otherwise we drift toward reliance on a few members as a network. Something that doesn't happen noticeably.
We should never collect money without purpose. What exactly would the money be going to, how much, and what problem would that be solving?
Traditionally the treasury was started to help guys when they needed it. IE cover gas money for events, rental vehicles, patches and such.
I'm not sure how often people even pay into it anymore.
3 People pay monthly contributions. Me, Henry, and Mike RI
@Tyler CT 8:45 EST for our meeting with Grant MD
ok
@Tyler CT on mumble
Mason VT is back. Saw his record in the interview channel
Interesting. Might be a good idea to keep him as an affiliate and have him come to a few things before we sign him on for real. I don't feel comfortable with him coming to December given his mental state.
But some sparring/hiking meetups absolutely
He says he is now seeking help for his mental health. We will meet with him before December and evaluate. If he has made a recovery I think we can take him, but we will be careful and attentive to any hint of mental instability.
That is good to hear. I think for his sake he needs to get help before coming back. Think of it like the marshal situation. It doesn't work if you do the same things over and over again.
Membership doesn't mean much if guys can be irresponsible or break rules and get removed and then come right back a week later.
I was talking with Tyler WA, and he was telling me about how his network paints over captured yard signs. They then put them back up in public. I think this is much more efficient that destroying the captured signs. We should do that in the future.
That depends, I don't think that format is necessarily approved for activism. What would you paint on it?
In any rate, we shouldn't be removing yard signs off of private property, so the idea itself should not even be on paper.
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Of course we don't steal them. No one in our network would ever break the law.
I'm not really joking
I've seen signs like these on public property too. It's less common, but they exist. I just wanted to bring the idea up to Henry.
@Thomas Unless you have specific direction on the matter of painting over procured roadside signs with our own stencils, I believe this is a good use for these acquired materials. It is a more legally safe version of stenciling. Replacing Anti-National messaging with National messaging
Good job finding that out @Tyler CT
@Vincent TX NW7 Plan for former Mason VT, Rex will set meet up times and places with Mason, Mason will meet with Rex on time every week for a month, in this time span Rex will assess Mason's mental, physical, and social health. If Mason shows improvement in these areas and commitment every one of these meet ups and maintains communication then we will readmit him. If not then reset, he must go another month.
Your thoughts?
That sounds fair, it will be good for both Rex and Mason. I say send it. Good idea Henry.
@Tyler CT Topics for Discussion tonight:
1) Debriefing on past weekend
2) Set Rendezvous place and time for Thursday night
3) Plan for acquiring more 50 stars.
4) Generally discuss our travel plans and logistics
Also @Vincent TX informed we will have a definite Checkpoint Address by Wednesday evening. Can you confirm this @Thomas ?
Sounds good. I'll talk with you at 9pm tonight.
Can't wait
Yes, Henry.
Awesome TY Thomas
Yo @Thomas Love the new hiking video, except it lists Mt Washington and shows no video of it. Was there something wrong with our footage?
Cutting your stickers now big dawg
Huge stack tonight
:D
Hell yes
Guys make it an absolute sticking point that Joe is only to put up PF promat when on runs. No extra crap. Keep the line taught with him or he will go back into his old ways. Spoke with him very briefly about it and he said he would, just keep an eye on it.
I did DM him right after he was added to Rocket Chat since he was posting a sticker run which had portraits of non-American fascists alongside our stickers. He also put a pro-gun sticker alongside ours. I told him he can't do either of those things anymore.
Ok good
@Tyler CT Mumble with Bill now?
ye
@Thomas Do you want us to change our strategy with Sam and Bill? I don't think we can keep Bill calm about this without the truth.
The truth is he has questionable ethics. He is too money centric and that boils over into politics unquestionably. he never did enough to begin with, he sat around for an entire year. We have ZERO obligation to allow people into the org, this goes for new nd old members alike. It is a privilege to be here, you have to earn it. We have no place for morally bankrupt, Jewish revolutionary men.
Even the JQ aside, all of his dealings are subppar or border on subversive at face value. I see no redeeming qualities to him.
I agree, but from Bill's perspective right now, we're enforcing arbitrary rules against Sam and preventing Sam from redeeming himself. We should have a standardized wait time for re-applies, but in Sam's case, he'd be denied after that time-frame anyway so we should just be up-front in my opinion.
I am prepared to tell Bill the reasons described by @Vincent TX above for preventing Sam's reentry and explain why his motives are counter to our Org. I am prepared to deal with Bill's fallout, whatever it may be, but only if you are okay with it @Thomas because of the drama that might ensue
Otherwise I will stick to the response provided in the nw7 chat
Sam lied about his heritage, there is no arbitrary rule being enforced.
Let Thomas way in on this one before you send it. It should be enough that he is blacklisted, but I think the idea was that Sam would not know about it, because he doesn't need to
I am getting one final confirmation and then I will speak to Bill directly. I avoided stating the reason publicly because I believe it would be embarrassing for Bill to find out he is advocating for a 5th Jew and his landlord to be admitted to the organization.
Sent to Bill.
Thanks, Thomas. I think that resolves it.
Yes well worded. I hope he understands and leaves it be
Both of your orders are packed.
Awesome!
A Man of Action. If for no other reason, be in Patriot Front for the men around you, they'll work till the works done, then find some more.
Thank you brother @Vincent TX
@Tyler CT I would like to introduce a new rule tonight. Minimum 2 Posts per week. We can rack up our numbers for sure
Also have you heard anything form Norman MA?
@Vincent TX When Joe MA hops on mumble tonight could you verify him for us?
What time would that be?
Oh 8
Yes
He is having trouble getting onto victory rn
I am stepping out in a sec. Can he hop on now.
No he messed with his password on RC and now he can't get on victory
You can just give him the info over rocket
THat likely won't be sorted till after this weekend
rightright
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