Message from @Vigil

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2018-09-08 16:50:08 UTC  

See: Alfie Evans

2018-09-08 16:50:27 UTC  

Wasn’t that an ethics thing?

2018-09-08 16:50:39 UTC  

oh yeah.. you mean the kid that the american docs said we can definitly help... then came over and said, no we would never have been able to help

2018-09-08 16:50:52 UTC  

I think it was somewhere else

2018-09-08 16:50:58 UTC  

So wait times are an issue?

2018-09-08 16:51:26 UTC  

But England was like “fuck dat shit RULE BRITTANIA OUR HEALTHCARE IS THE BEST! LET THE CHILD DIE TO PROVE A POINT!”

2018-09-08 16:51:28 UTC  

on average the wait times in the UK are 30% less than the US

2018-09-08 16:51:57 UTC  

the child was already brain dead

2018-09-08 16:51:59 UTC  

US is a larger area and hospitals are pretty far from each other

2018-09-08 16:52:22 UTC  

what does that have to do with wait times?

2018-09-08 16:52:27 UTC  

Yeah, I haven't really heard any complaints from people in the UK.

2018-09-08 16:52:33 UTC  

Ehh

2018-09-08 16:52:34 UTC  

wait times means your already at the hospital... in a waiting room

2018-09-08 16:52:42 UTC  

I hate the waits

2018-09-08 16:52:52 UTC  

It’s like there aren’t enough doctors per hospital

2018-09-08 16:52:59 UTC  

^^^^^^^^

2018-09-08 16:53:15 UTC  

It was Italian doctors who said they would help, the government said no, which shouldn't be their choice to make

2018-09-08 16:53:20 UTC  

It's that simple

2018-09-08 16:53:32 UTC  

In the UK, healthcare is still heavily mismanaged. I don't know the US system though

2018-09-08 16:53:49 UTC  

Not sure

2018-09-08 16:53:59 UTC  

I was once called in for blood test results and waited 45 minutes to be told "There's nothing wrong" and sent out, they surely could have just texted/emailed

2018-09-08 16:54:07 UTC  

popped into the docs not long ago... just to say i was going on holiday.. they gave me like.. 6 vaccines.. 😛 then went home.. no wait time... no appointment

2018-09-08 16:54:07 UTC  

It's heavily mismanaged and this is admitted by some of its biggest political proponents

2018-09-08 16:54:18 UTC  

Sometimes

2018-09-08 16:54:28 UTC  

I got blood tests years ago w/o results

2018-09-08 16:54:30 UTC  

>works on my machine: healthcare edition

2018-09-08 16:54:33 UTC  

It was a diabetes check tho

2018-09-08 16:54:50 UTC  

UK system is very up and down, sometimes I'll go in and the doctor will be very helpful, other times I get told BS

2018-09-08 16:55:07 UTC  

6 vaccines are nothing

2018-09-08 16:55:10 UTC  

Like once I went in for a tonsillitis appointment and was told I'd need to make a separate appointment just to ask questions about contraception

2018-09-08 16:55:22 UTC  

I got shots with things I was allergic too 16 times in each arm

2018-09-08 16:55:25 UTC  

I was on about this the other day

2018-09-08 16:56:07 UTC  

We have long waiting lists too, there was a news story I saw a few months back where people were waiting upwards of a year or two to get diagnosed with autism

2018-09-08 16:56:26 UTC  

I could probably diagnose it

2018-09-08 16:57:00 UTC  

Hospital wait times has nothing to do with waiting in a hospital. It is a capacity issue. It is how long a patient has to wait for non emergency service, e.g. a hip replacement, if I recall the UK is a month behind the EU avg.

2018-09-08 16:57:26 UTC  

Yeah I think that’s it

2018-09-08 16:57:36 UTC  

No necessity and nothing happens

2018-09-08 16:57:45 UTC  

kinda funny really... the only people who aren't covered under the US healthcare are the tax payers who pay for it 😛

2018-09-08 16:57:50 UTC  

$1tn per year

2018-09-08 16:58:06 UTC  

But we still have to pay shitloads if there’s no health insurance

2018-09-08 17:00:58 UTC  

i think our NHS budget has gone up quite a lot since this (even though the libs keep saying our budget is cut... it is definitely NOT) ... https://s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/staging.informa.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/17035618/davis_mirror_2014_es1_for_web.jpg