and through 3rd parties you can just resume those deals, albeit a bit strained cuz the 3rd parties gain some money from it too

ya just the drug dealers middle men at that pont

so, ok, lets put punishment to the side for a sec

we need a better election system in this country. a more hardened system

people could hack our voter machines with a TI-85 if they wanted too

they are such garbage devices i wouldnt let my mom use one if it was donated

what would you suggest though?

Paper ballots can be falsified too

oh hell no

i mean we need new devices all together

ones that cannot be found just connecting to the local wifi of the library

something that connects directly to a larger database to tally the votes

and who's gonna pay for those machines?

well, this is one of those things that the government SHOULD pay for

the fed

its to secure the elections of the country

yes but government doesn't have their own money

Government money is Taxpayer money

i think thats a pretty easy sell

i dont think you will find too many tax payers that disagree we need better voting machines

and they sure as hell wont use money from other budgets

They'll demand to increase taxes to pay for it, and people wont do it

maybe some will squabble on who pays for them

but that should be pretty easily worked into the budget

let me look that up, im not sure who buys them currently, im assuming the state

oh wow maybe the county level, no wonder some of the places have craptastic devices

besides

the higher-ups of neither side want to change the machines

cuz they need an excuse for why they didn't win

ok here we go

Most of the country replaced voting equipment in the mid-2000s, with the help of federal HAVA funds

so its not out of the relm of possibilities

http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/election-costs.aspx

if you want to see where i got that

voting equipment towards the bottom

but the state still got to pick the machines used

so to me, seems like we need a fed funded non retail machine for this

stop using dells lol

I believe you, Im just saying that theres not enough push for it because the ones at the top dont want better,
The average government doesn't want to spend money,
and the average joe doesn't wanna pay more in taxes for it

well your first like was correct

no one wants to fix the problem because they are all hoping they can exploit it when its their turn

yes

besides, any system can be cracked

ya but the degree of difficulty is an issue