Message from @TylerC

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2018-09-17 22:47:03 UTC  

well the US state would get it, and they'd give it to mexicans 😛

2018-09-17 22:47:15 UTC  

it would just go to the def budget

2018-09-17 22:47:37 UTC  

but the problem with Sanctions is how they work "We wont trade with you" So you stop your own trade too

Meaning both sides lose from it, one just more than others

2018-09-17 22:47:39 UTC  

would be cool if we used that money to make a better election system, but i wont hold my breath for that

2018-09-17 22:48:20 UTC  

and through 3rd parties you can just resume those deals, albeit a bit strained cuz the 3rd parties gain some money from it too

2018-09-17 22:48:42 UTC  

ya just the drug dealers middle men at that pont

2018-09-17 22:49:25 UTC  

so, ok, lets put punishment to the side for a sec

2018-09-17 22:49:53 UTC  

we need a better election system in this country. a more hardened system

2018-09-17 22:50:17 UTC  

people could hack our voter machines with a TI-85 if they wanted too

2018-09-17 22:50:42 UTC  

they are such garbage devices i wouldnt let my mom use one if it was donated

2018-09-17 22:50:54 UTC  

what would you suggest though?

Paper ballots can be falsified too

2018-09-17 22:50:59 UTC  

oh hell no

2018-09-17 22:51:09 UTC  

i mean we need new devices all together

2018-09-17 22:51:31 UTC  

ones that cannot be found just connecting to the local wifi of the library

2018-09-17 22:51:50 UTC  

something that connects directly to a larger database to tally the votes

2018-09-17 22:52:01 UTC  

and who's gonna pay for those machines?

2018-09-17 22:52:16 UTC  

well, this is one of those things that the government SHOULD pay for

2018-09-17 22:52:21 UTC  

the fed

2018-09-17 22:52:31 UTC  

its to secure the elections of the country

2018-09-17 22:52:35 UTC  

yes but government doesn't have their own money

Government money is Taxpayer money

2018-09-17 22:52:36 UTC  

i think thats a pretty easy sell

2018-09-17 22:53:04 UTC  

i dont think you will find too many tax payers that disagree we need better voting machines

2018-09-17 22:53:06 UTC  

and they sure as hell wont use money from other budgets

They'll demand to increase taxes to pay for it, and people wont do it

2018-09-17 22:53:10 UTC  

maybe some will squabble on who pays for them

2018-09-17 22:53:21 UTC  

but that should be pretty easily worked into the budget

2018-09-17 22:53:34 UTC  

let me look that up, im not sure who buys them currently, im assuming the state

2018-09-17 22:54:38 UTC  

oh wow maybe the county level, no wonder some of the places have craptastic devices

2018-09-17 22:55:02 UTC  

besides

2018-09-17 22:55:12 UTC  

the higher-ups of neither side want to change the machines

2018-09-17 22:55:19 UTC  

cuz they need an excuse for why they didn't win

2018-09-17 22:55:35 UTC  

ok here we go

2018-09-17 22:55:36 UTC  

Most of the country replaced voting equipment in the mid-2000s, with the help of federal HAVA funds

2018-09-17 22:55:51 UTC  

so its not out of the relm of possibilities

2018-09-17 22:55:59 UTC  

if you want to see where i got that

2018-09-17 22:56:08 UTC  

voting equipment towards the bottom

2018-09-17 22:56:31 UTC  

but the state still got to pick the machines used

2018-09-17 22:56:59 UTC  

so to me, seems like we need a fed funded non retail machine for this

2018-09-17 22:57:07 UTC  

stop using dells lol

2018-09-17 22:57:21 UTC  

I believe you, Im just saying that theres not enough push for it because the ones at the top dont want better,
The average government doesn't want to spend money,
and the average joe doesn't wanna pay more in taxes for it

2018-09-17 22:57:38 UTC  

well your first like was correct