Message from @Redneo
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Well the key word is celibate and how you define it
For instance, if you want people including men not to be tortured, that does make you a mens rights advocate.
becouse you are literally engaged in doing what that noun describes
Doing the verb to the noun
(if you also want women not to be tortured, you are of course also a WRA)
#stopthebias https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1OwPeOonzU
"abstaining from marriage and sexual relations, typically for religious reasons"
In the term incel, I believe that extents to abstaining from relationships period, involuntary of course
@Redneo bingo, sorry I walked away from my phone.
The point of the term incel is that they can't even get a date, yet alone anything more.
Yeah i guess you can argue about what celibacy means, yes.
@Grenade123 but what I think @Redneo is arguing is that it's involuntary
Well yeah, you cant blame something for what he doesnt even want
Espacialy as women call men which dont put out MURDERERS.
I think it was a guardian or NYT article calling men which are not available murderers becouse your life is shorter if you are alone
what would you think if someone defended a neo nazi as not really racist but just trying to have a laugh
I don't disagree that making fun of incels is at all a good idea, it's like making fun of anyone based on immutable characteristics.
because thats Data and Society
describing Daily Stormer as just for a joke
Well i would describe it as such
do you thnk the average person would agree that its not real nazism
right but they arent saying its meant to be fake
they are saying "this guy is racist and has a nazi tattoo, but its not for real ya know"
I mean what do you mean by "defend"? I would defend their rights
defend their actions as not racism just jokes
like getting a nazi tattoo, that was just for a laugh according to them
Sounds like they don't take them seriously. Which if they are trying to pain people like you and Sargon as serious but the daily stormer as not, I'd have to question if they are really neo-nazi supporters.
maybe its the ancient indian hidnu symbol of peace tim 😛
I wouldnt defend a neo nazi tatoo as not racist, their articles seem to be satire, might have the opposite goal. At least id argue itll have the opposite effect.
die bart, die
In the end, i dont care to much if they are racist or not. So long as they dont hurt anyone - and if they do i dont care what they believe.
people should be able to express whatever opinions they want... and I should be free to tell them their opinion is stupid
right
should data and society be allowed to claim that liberals and centrists are connected to nazis when they are actually closer and have spoken in their defense?
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That sounds like a defamation suit waiting to happen
yes... and when they are proven wrong... it takes away all their credibility
Though they seem to have framed it carefully using a snowball system at least thats what they claim
Problem is
they cant have employed a snowball system