Message from @wacka

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2018-09-21 11:53:33 UTC  

right but they arent saying its meant to be fake

2018-09-21 11:53:45 UTC  

they are saying "this guy is racist and has a nazi tattoo, but its not for real ya know"

2018-09-21 11:54:03 UTC  

I mean what do you mean by "defend"? I would defend their rights

2018-09-21 11:54:12 UTC  

defend their actions as not racism just jokes

2018-09-21 11:54:24 UTC  

like getting a nazi tattoo, that was just for a laugh according to them

2018-09-21 11:54:38 UTC  

Sounds like they don't take them seriously. Which if they are trying to pain people like you and Sargon as serious but the daily stormer as not, I'd have to question if they are really neo-nazi supporters.

2018-09-21 11:54:52 UTC  

maybe its the ancient indian hidnu symbol of peace tim 😛

2018-09-21 11:55:23 UTC  

I wouldnt defend a neo nazi tatoo as not racist, their articles seem to be satire, might have the opposite goal. At least id argue itll have the opposite effect.

2018-09-21 11:55:56 UTC  

die bart, die

2018-09-21 11:57:43 UTC  

In the end, i dont care to much if they are racist or not. So long as they dont hurt anyone - and if they do i dont care what they believe.

2018-09-21 11:58:31 UTC  

people should be able to express whatever opinions they want... and I should be free to tell them their opinion is stupid

2018-09-21 11:58:41 UTC  

right

2018-09-21 12:00:55 UTC  

should data and society be allowed to claim that liberals and centrists are connected to nazis when they are actually closer and have spoken in their defense?

2018-09-21 12:01:17 UTC  

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2018-09-21 12:01:47 UTC  

That sounds like a defamation suit waiting to happen

2018-09-21 12:01:50 UTC  

yes... and when they are proven wrong... it takes away all their credibility

2018-09-21 12:02:27 UTC  

Though they seem to have framed it carefully using a snowball system at least thats what they claim

2018-09-21 12:02:29 UTC  

Problem is

2018-09-21 12:02:43 UTC  

they cant have employed a snowball system

2018-09-21 12:02:44 UTC  

as long as the counter of their "data" has an equal voice... it will only discredit data & society

2018-09-21 12:03:04 UTC  

Becouse if they did employ a snowball system, they would have people like lacy green on their hatemap

2018-09-21 12:03:14 UTC  

After all, they do have chris raygun

2018-09-21 12:03:45 UTC  

doctor layman explained how a snowball system works here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocEIq3DHEb4&t=0s

2018-09-21 12:04:00 UTC  

it doesnt matter... if their whole foundation is based on provable lies.. the whole thing falls apart

2018-09-21 12:04:06 UTC  

and it does more to hurt them

2018-09-21 12:04:16 UTC  

that basically how trump got elected

2018-09-21 12:04:25 UTC  

nobody trusted the MSM anymore

2018-09-21 12:04:31 UTC  

Basicly it means you investigate everyone connected to someone else and connected to them and so on - strangely, they didnt list any leftists that were speaking to those on the hatemap

2018-09-21 12:04:56 UTC  

nobodies going to vote for you... if you come out with a bare faced obvious lie

2018-09-21 12:05:33 UTC  

and the more they double down on this... the more credibility it erases

2018-09-21 12:06:16 UTC  

its like when someone tells a fib... and then doubles down with a lie.. and more lies and it grows and grows until they cant turn back... until it all falls apart

2018-09-21 12:07:25 UTC  

The ADL should really take action against the defamation by data and society and the SPLC 😉

2018-09-21 12:08:34 UTC  

You're approaching this as someone who is outside the progressive bubble and knows that most of the people on *the list* are not white supremacists or white nationalists. From the perspective of someone inside the progressive bubble (like people high in Youtube's corporate hierarchy), this Data Society report looks like a confirmation of their worst fears.

2018-09-21 12:08:50 UTC  

depends how you look at it... if some people get more famous from this.. and seen in a good light (to be part of this diverse group of thinkers) it can be seen as the opposite of defamation

2018-09-21 12:09:59 UTC  

its a multi-racial mutli-gendered +trans group of left-wing/right-wing people

2018-09-21 12:10:11 UTC  

+centrists

2018-09-21 12:11:33 UTC  

multi religion too

2018-09-21 12:11:42 UTC  

It was them who said in their report that those people are "selfidentified members of the intellectual dark web", too, right? That term actualy originated as a smear

2018-09-21 12:12:07 UTC  

Not aware of any of them actualy using the term but im not following most of them

2018-09-21 12:15:27 UTC  

But i havent heard any of the ones i do follow use the term