Message from @Redneo

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2018-09-23 07:42:32 UTC  

when they can make a good game again

2018-09-23 09:04:52 UTC  

@Timcast based on the outline of what you mean by rare, and such, and saying over 50% would be what youd call common, i would say false accusations are common.

2018-09-23 09:05:57 UTC  

Seen as we can proof something between 29% and 41% of accusations individualy to be false beyond a shadow of a doubt (data from 2009 germany and 1994 US respectivly)

2018-09-23 09:08:40 UTC  

The disagreement isnt about the term rare its about the data

2018-09-23 09:12:28 UTC  

where I live it's over 50 percent

2018-09-23 09:13:14 UTC  

It may be but you probably cant proof it in over 50% of cases

2018-09-23 09:14:05 UTC  

or maybe you can

2018-09-23 09:14:21 UTC  

the 29% and 41% figures are actualy lowballs

2018-09-23 09:15:42 UTC  

based on ONE piece of evidence which in itself does proof that its a lie. In case of 29% and germany, selfinflicted injuries presented as stemming from a rape, in case of 41% in the US based on the accuser ADMITTING to have lied. There may well be evidence proving other accusations false as well

2018-09-23 09:17:30 UTC  

In any case i would aquitt if i was in the US and in the jury of a rape trial. Regardless of evidence

2018-09-23 09:17:53 UTC  

If i personaly saw the guy chasing then holding down a struggling woman, i would not convict

2018-09-23 09:18:03 UTC  

Reason being, it couldve been some BDSM playsession

2018-09-23 09:18:09 UTC  

she may have had a safeword

2018-09-23 09:18:26 UTC  

and becouse her sexual history cant be used as evidence, the defense cant announce this fact.

2018-09-23 09:18:41 UTC  

If a fair trial is impossible, you have no choice but to aquitt

2018-09-23 09:19:45 UTC  

And im not the first to say exactly that

2018-09-23 09:29:24 UTC  

What if theres video evidence,
8 witnesses
And the man was found on top of the woman proclaiming "I'm glad i raped the woman"?

2018-09-23 09:30:54 UTC  

I mean i was trying to portray something to that effect with what i described

2018-09-23 09:32:26 UTC  

woudln't that technically make rape legal in your country?🤔

2018-09-23 09:32:26 UTC  

i guess now you have in addition to that the guy himself describing it as rape

2018-09-23 09:32:39 UTC  

in your description

2018-09-23 09:32:58 UTC  

ys it would

2018-09-23 09:33:24 UTC  

that would just be a short trip to vigilante justice me thinks

2018-09-23 09:33:25 UTC  

and id prefer that over the current situation

2018-09-23 09:33:39 UTC  

Lol I didn't know john wick was in psycho pass

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/493354249225371658/unknown.png

2018-09-23 09:33:55 UTC  

Vigilante justice allready happens against the falsely accused

2018-09-23 09:33:57 UTC  

Oh no one is arguing the current situation is good,

Right now its listen and believe, and the man is shoved off to jail instantly

2018-09-23 09:34:25 UTC  

Do you guys think China's social credit score system is a good idea?

2018-09-23 09:34:30 UTC  

no

2018-09-23 09:34:48 UTC  

I personally kinda like it

2018-09-23 09:34:48 UTC  

Its a bad idea

2018-09-23 09:35:04 UTC  

You like the idea of socially and financially alienating people who don't agree with the state?

2018-09-23 09:35:22 UTC  

Well we do have a system for that in western countries.

2018-09-23 09:35:26 UTC  

It's a measurable metric, one you can track.

2018-09-23 09:35:26 UTC  

Its called psychiatry

2018-09-23 09:35:40 UTC  

I guess what I don't like the amount of power the government will have

2018-09-23 09:35:52 UTC  

which is the whole point of the social score system

2018-09-23 09:36:03 UTC  

that the government can just control your score behind the scenes

2018-09-23 09:36:39 UTC  

Well, that is the way it is announced, as a measurable metric the government manipulates behind the scenes

2018-09-23 09:36:40 UTC  

They don't like you? you lose points

People who asociate with you lose points

People dont wanna asociate with you
You get places behind the line on help/finances

You effectively become exiled

2018-09-23 09:36:43 UTC  

Isnt it?