Message from @Beemann

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2018-09-23 21:39:54 UTC  

TF2 as well

2018-09-23 21:39:59 UTC  

just like the hats

2018-09-23 21:40:15 UTC  

They are because they don’t set a market price on the goods, rather take a % from each transaction, allowing the market to set value. Protected by second sale doctrine

2018-09-23 21:40:16 UTC  

Hats and weapons, and the cards

2018-09-23 21:40:42 UTC  

A casino makes sure a blue chip is with x$

2018-09-23 21:40:47 UTC  

So then the issue wouldn't be lootboxes, but the existence of a second hand market

2018-09-23 21:41:10 UTC  

Or rather the lack of one

2018-09-23 21:41:10 UTC  

"Chance, Prize and Consideration. No chance is ever seen by any player."
what does this mean?

2018-09-23 21:41:56 UTC  

if there is an ability to trade, i do believe lootbox style stuff is not nearly as bad, and would be closer to trading card games

2018-09-23 21:42:06 UTC  

Exactly, against TOS. Im working on a series from the AUS committee. Out of no where, the “chairmen” starts talking about wow gold.. you who want to regulate are being used as pawns lol

2018-09-23 21:42:38 UTC  

Lol

2018-09-23 21:43:18 UTC  

I kid you not.. and the expert who was talking at the time said yes, that needs to be looked at “because of the ability to sell and buy on illegal 3rd party website”

2018-09-23 21:43:33 UTC  

its already illegal

2018-09-23 21:43:37 UTC  

tf they gonna do?

2018-09-23 21:43:49 UTC  

Make it 18+ in aus

2018-09-23 21:44:22 UTC  

isn't Australia already like the most annoying market to sell games in?

2018-09-23 21:44:29 UTC  

Yes

2018-09-23 21:44:44 UTC  

It's a terrible market for consumers

2018-09-23 21:45:02 UTC  

Prices are high, the Australian government are a bunch of puritan babies

2018-09-23 21:45:20 UTC  

The thing about it is, when you look into how they say gambling is “bad” and “addictive”.. that’s 100% bullshit. Its based of the fixed ratio vs variable ratio study that is horse shit. 100% bullshit study that was used in the loot box AUS com.

2018-09-23 21:45:36 UTC  

Also many games don't have a proper Aus/SEA server so you get 200ping minimum

2018-09-23 21:45:45 UTC  

Like you're on fucking dial up

2018-09-23 21:46:45 UTC  

my problem with most lootboxes is that they are dangerously close to modern slot machines, which i do believe are problematic as they use social engineering to maximize money spent and minimize money put out that in some cases is tailored to the user

2018-09-23 21:46:49 UTC  

I'm West Coast so I run into a lot of Aussies and Kiwis in vidya

2018-09-23 21:46:57 UTC  

lootboxes are not that bad yet

2018-09-23 21:46:57 UTC  

Nearest region lol

2018-09-23 21:47:33 UTC  

Then people like Jim Sterling and others go on about how predatory loot boxes are.. while promoting gay lifestyles to children and pushing listeners to go get head meds if they don’t feel normal, and don’t listen to a doctor who doesn’t tell you what you want to hear. 100% bullshit!

2018-09-23 21:47:34 UTC  

I played a game with really bad lootbox mechanics, Rift

2018-09-23 21:48:10 UTC  

Like 75% of what used to be gear drops were boxes that you had to buy the keys for with cash

2018-09-23 21:48:20 UTC  

Oof

2018-09-23 21:48:22 UTC  

who are lootboxes taking money from? parents who don't pay attention to what their kids are doing

2018-09-23 21:48:27 UTC  

And this was a game that was supposed to be buy to play

2018-09-23 21:48:42 UTC  

Didn't it go f2p partway through or some shit?

2018-09-23 21:48:56 UTC  

Exactly G.. kids have parents. It’s not like kids are out gambling across town. They are in the living room 😂

2018-09-23 21:49:26 UTC  

My worst MTX experience was watching Battlefield Heroes get yeeted by p2win items

2018-09-23 21:50:14 UTC  

Bee, the Hawaii state rep Chris Lee said he wanted to regulate pay to win out of the market. This is leftism today

2018-09-23 21:50:14 UTC  

It was F2P but most of the stuff you'd buy would be expansion content like new classes

2018-09-23 21:50:34 UTC  

they sell it cuz people buy it

2018-09-23 21:50:34 UTC  

>regulate out pay to win
Wew

2018-09-23 21:50:42 UTC  

Just don't buy the game

2018-09-23 21:50:43 UTC  

so you mean all games?