there was actually a decent feeling of good old american freedom before then

life was better when women coul;dnt leave

thats not what i said at all

It was the feeling of not knowing. Are we going to war with a nation or some terrorists.

thats a good slogan to run on "life was better before the patriot act"

its true

oh without a doubt. the patriot act is unconditional and dangerous

everything got so much heavier after that, everyone in fear

well, and more than the patriot act itself

life was just life before

the attitude it seems to have imposed on the legislature

exactly

simultaneously bold and cowardly

lol yep

Grenade did you worry that we might went to war with another nation, namely a nuclear power after the 9/11 attacks? Did the thought of not knowing who attacked you chilled you to the bone, because what our nation's reaction afterwards would be?

its how we get perfectly fine execution of American citizens without due process.

We could very well have gone nuclear if cool head have not prevailed.

9/11 was a joint operation between CIA and Mossad and SA

Well, I think Barack Obama was the other real nail in the coffin

was the moon landing a hoax too?

So, what do we think about the government use of Torture then?

look into it more if you are genuinely curious, there is a ton of info

because his identity offered shelter for his actions

the moon landing may have been a hoax, yes

it is really impressive what the Obama administration was allowed to do with near impunity

so long as that info doesn't has "jet fuel can't melt steel beams"

Your killing me here Joey... wow.

then die already

Joey, buy a big ol laser

you people need to ask more questions

and shine it at the right spot on the moon

it has a retroreflector

if that is the kind of proof you have, it shows your proof doesn't understand a thing about structure engineering

we put it there in the '60s

there are a LOT of anomalies about the moon in general actually

but you wouldn;t know about that i'm guessing

@xorgy clearly the government just had photoshop, and white lasers in the early 60's

yeah but there isn't a naturally occurring retroreflector on the moon, Joey

make fun of me all you want, i'm not stupid nor am i crazy

that's retarded.

what? i dont know what you are talking about