Message from @Grenade123

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2018-09-26 04:24:34 UTC  

or most important purpose

2018-09-26 04:24:47 UTC  

making the next iteration as similar as possible to the previous generates a considerable amount of value in itself, if you are willing to do the grunt work.

2018-09-26 04:25:27 UTC  

yes u can make things more efficient

2018-09-26 04:25:30 UTC  

my point here is that the external aerodynamic properties of certain types of desirable military aircraft have not changed, per type, substantially since the '80s

2018-09-26 04:25:52 UTC  

You might get better engines, find out that thrust vectoring affects the desired wing structure

2018-09-26 04:26:12 UTC  

maybe two subassemblies are merged for better rigidity or serviceability

2018-09-26 04:26:22 UTC  

but that's not the same as "starting from the ground up"

2018-09-26 04:26:42 UTC  

which, in my view, is rarely your best option, if the system you want is substantially similar to the one you have.

2018-09-26 04:27:52 UTC  

they key phrase being "if the system you want is substantially similar to the one you have"

2018-09-26 04:28:00 UTC  

which is, in this case, true

2018-09-26 04:28:12 UTC  

and what if you wanted to simplify supply lines?

2018-09-26 04:28:12 UTC  

they've attempted to merge the roles into one parent design of the airframe

2018-09-26 04:28:19 UTC  

you have failed

2018-09-26 04:28:37 UTC  

because you now have three aircraft which share what...10% of parts?

2018-09-26 04:28:45 UTC  

its like running retardedly. if u get 10 mph at running retardedly imagine the speed you'll get if u start back down and do the right form for running.

2018-09-26 04:28:53 UTC  

they share a lot of the instruments and software surely

2018-09-26 04:29:03 UTC  

but those were never that difficult to share between craft anyway

2018-09-26 04:29:27 UTC  

a VTOL F35 will be able to share exactly _none_ of the external surfaces

2018-09-26 04:29:37 UTC  

_none_ of the power components

2018-09-26 04:30:05 UTC  

None of the subassemblies are the same.

2018-09-26 04:30:40 UTC  

i was not aware the f35 design was publicly available

2018-09-26 04:30:54 UTC  

They have concepts

2018-09-26 04:31:07 UTC  

a vtol HAS to have ports in places there are none on the other two

2018-09-26 04:31:23 UTC  

it has to have ducts, vents, actuators

2018-09-26 04:31:33 UTC  

yes, and a keyless ignition care has a spot for the key ignition

2018-09-26 04:31:53 UTC  

are they going to make all three have the same bloody ducts the vtol has?

2018-09-26 04:31:56 UTC  

just like a steering less car has a spot for the steering wheel

2018-09-26 04:31:57 UTC  

is that going to be a void?

2018-09-26 04:32:34 UTC  

what will replace it structurally?

2018-09-26 04:32:59 UTC  

on the outside why not? put in a plate that bolts in place like every other panel.

2018-09-26 04:33:42 UTC  

what goes where that lift fan is at?

2018-09-26 04:33:49 UTC  

second cockpit?

2018-09-26 04:33:50 UTC  

ammo

2018-09-26 04:33:54 UTC  

bombs

2018-09-26 04:34:23 UTC  

extra fuel (although that causes balance issues) or nothing if you are aiming for more underwing armament

2018-09-26 04:34:59 UTC  

the F135 has distinct variants for each F35 configuration

2018-09-26 04:35:38 UTC  

so how much of this supply is going to be shared?

2018-09-26 04:35:45 UTC  

sure, they might come from the same factories

2018-09-26 04:35:55 UTC  

but what do you get? you don't get interchangeability

2018-09-26 04:36:04 UTC  

you're not going to be building F135 variants into eachother