Message from @Grenade123

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2018-09-26 04:20:24 UTC  

it is different in the ways they cared about

2018-09-26 04:20:53 UTC  

i will re-ask my question, you ever done design work? of the engineering or technical kind?

2018-09-26 04:21:06 UTC  

What would qualify as a yes in that case?

2018-09-26 04:21:14 UTC  

I'm a software developer by trade

2018-09-26 04:21:21 UTC  

so no

2018-09-26 04:21:36 UTC  

I've not designed a production military aircraft

2018-09-26 04:23:17 UTC  

they you should know sometimes legacy code gets to a point where it needs to be re-done from the ground up from time to time. The more future proofed the original code the easier it is, but you can only do so much to plan for changes 30 years out.

2018-09-26 04:23:28 UTC  

No, I don't really agree with that statement.

2018-09-26 04:23:48 UTC  

Generally speaking, in systems of a certain size, it is rarely necessary to toss and replace everything.

2018-09-26 04:24:11 UTC  

Even if making a major change, like completely switching programming language or environment.

2018-09-26 04:24:34 UTC  

or most important purpose

2018-09-26 04:24:47 UTC  

making the next iteration as similar as possible to the previous generates a considerable amount of value in itself, if you are willing to do the grunt work.

2018-09-26 04:25:27 UTC  

yes u can make things more efficient

2018-09-26 04:25:30 UTC  

my point here is that the external aerodynamic properties of certain types of desirable military aircraft have not changed, per type, substantially since the '80s

2018-09-26 04:25:52 UTC  

You might get better engines, find out that thrust vectoring affects the desired wing structure

2018-09-26 04:26:12 UTC  

maybe two subassemblies are merged for better rigidity or serviceability

2018-09-26 04:26:22 UTC  

but that's not the same as "starting from the ground up"

2018-09-26 04:26:42 UTC  

which, in my view, is rarely your best option, if the system you want is substantially similar to the one you have.

2018-09-26 04:27:52 UTC  

they key phrase being "if the system you want is substantially similar to the one you have"

2018-09-26 04:28:00 UTC  

which is, in this case, true

2018-09-26 04:28:12 UTC  

and what if you wanted to simplify supply lines?

2018-09-26 04:28:12 UTC  

they've attempted to merge the roles into one parent design of the airframe

2018-09-26 04:28:19 UTC  

you have failed

2018-09-26 04:28:37 UTC  

because you now have three aircraft which share what...10% of parts?

2018-09-26 04:28:45 UTC  

its like running retardedly. if u get 10 mph at running retardedly imagine the speed you'll get if u start back down and do the right form for running.

2018-09-26 04:28:53 UTC  

they share a lot of the instruments and software surely

2018-09-26 04:29:03 UTC  

but those were never that difficult to share between craft anyway

2018-09-26 04:29:27 UTC  

a VTOL F35 will be able to share exactly _none_ of the external surfaces

2018-09-26 04:29:37 UTC  

_none_ of the power components

2018-09-26 04:30:05 UTC  

None of the subassemblies are the same.

2018-09-26 04:30:40 UTC  

i was not aware the f35 design was publicly available

2018-09-26 04:30:54 UTC  

They have concepts

2018-09-26 04:31:07 UTC  

a vtol HAS to have ports in places there are none on the other two

2018-09-26 04:31:23 UTC  

it has to have ducts, vents, actuators

2018-09-26 04:31:33 UTC  

yes, and a keyless ignition care has a spot for the key ignition

2018-09-26 04:31:53 UTC  

are they going to make all three have the same bloody ducts the vtol has?

2018-09-26 04:31:56 UTC  

just like a steering less car has a spot for the steering wheel

2018-09-26 04:31:57 UTC  

is that going to be a void?

2018-09-26 04:32:34 UTC  

what will replace it structurally?

2018-09-26 04:32:59 UTC  

on the outside why not? put in a plate that bolts in place like every other panel.