Message from @pratel

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2018-09-28 20:22:45 UTC  

Manchin's unions (coal country) would be ones to flip.

2018-09-28 20:23:26 UTC  

likelihood of armed partisan mobs?

2018-09-28 20:23:30 UTC  

probably not

2018-09-28 20:23:32 UTC  

yet

2018-09-28 20:23:51 UTC  

We already have those in the streets of Berkley and Seattle.

2018-09-28 20:23:51 UTC  

i mean guns not what antfa uses

2018-09-28 20:23:58 UTC  

mobs? yes not yet. militant cells? sure.

2018-09-28 20:24:03 UTC  

Antifa carries guns in their stuff.

2018-09-28 20:24:08 UTC  

Concealed and likely illegal.

2018-09-28 20:25:29 UTC  

I'd say the coalminers unions would do anything for Trump nowadays.

2018-09-28 20:25:53 UTC  

Have they donated R yet?

2018-09-28 20:25:58 UTC  

That's the key point when it flips.

2018-09-28 20:26:15 UTC  

When they put money to the Republicans and are running ads in favor of the Republicans.

2018-09-28 20:26:23 UTC  

And getting absolutely excoriated in the press.

2018-09-28 20:26:36 UTC  

And all the free market progressives appear and suddenly don't like unions.

2018-09-28 20:26:44 UTC  

Their industry is already savagely excoriated by the press.

2018-09-28 20:26:49 UTC  

And the progressives decide they only like the "right" unions.

2018-09-28 20:26:57 UTC  

I don't think they'd care either.

2018-09-28 20:27:23 UTC  

But you can get signal from negative press to an extent. And we haven't got that yet.

2018-09-28 20:29:45 UTC  

The more I read about historical Nazi propaganda, the more I get disturbed about today (for example, I never realized white guilt is basically "England's guilt").

2018-09-28 20:29:59 UTC  

This is interesting. I would like to know more.

2018-09-28 20:31:24 UTC  

Essentially, England's capitalist ways led it to exploit the rest of the world in the past and it should feel guilty about it

2018-09-28 20:31:25 UTC  

@Nine any links ?

2018-09-28 20:32:11 UTC  

The east india trade company

2018-09-28 20:32:26 UTC  

Didn't Hitler idolize the English though?

2018-09-28 20:32:50 UTC  

Hitler idolized the germans

2018-09-28 20:33:33 UTC  

right, but he wanted an alliance with the English and was deeply hurt they didn't want him.

2018-09-28 20:33:43 UTC  

He liked the fact that they'd built such a massive empire.

2018-09-28 20:33:51 UTC  

They didnt teach me dat in history class

2018-09-28 20:33:53 UTC  

And wanted to meet and exceed it with his own.

2018-09-28 20:34:26 UTC  

Interesting. It would make sense too.

2018-09-28 20:34:43 UTC  

Since England was firmly anti-Hitler around that point.

2018-09-28 20:35:04 UTC  

"England is a capitalist democracy. Germany is a socialist people’s state. And it is not the case that we think England is the richest land on earth. There are lords and City men in England who are in fact the richest men on earth. The broad masses, however, see little of this wealth. We see in England an army of millions of impoverished, socially enslaved, and oppressed people. Child labor is still a matter of course there. They have only heard about social welfare programs. Parliament occasionally discusses social legislation. Nowhere else is there such terrible and horrifying inequality as in the English slums. Those with good breeding take no notice of it. Should anyone speak of it in public, the press, which serves plutocratic democracy, quickly brands him the worst kind of rascal. They do not hesitate to make major changes in the Constitution if they are necessary to preserve capitalist democracy."

2018-09-28 20:35:16 UTC  

among other things

2018-09-28 20:36:12 UTC  

Wow.

2018-09-28 20:36:32 UTC  

Really gets to the "National *Socialism*" angle there.

2018-09-28 20:38:53 UTC  

"Capitalism democracy suffers from every possible modern social ailment. The lords and City people can remain the richest people one earth only because they constantly maintain their wealth by exploiting their colonies and preserving unbelievable poverty in their own country."

2018-09-28 20:40:42 UTC  

There are some that say MI6 helped provoke hostility between the US and Japan

2018-09-28 20:41:04 UTC  

And that the Rape of Nanking was propagandized by them

2018-09-28 20:41:38 UTC  

Yes. There's as many conspiracy theories that Pearl Harbor was orchestrated to get the Us into the war (often and usually involving Roosevelt) as there are 9/11 conspiracies.