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2018-09-29 20:52:12 UTC  

Except MRA is LITERALLY just the noun to the verb

2018-09-29 20:52:17 UTC  

Also

2018-09-29 20:52:22 UTC  

According to whom?

2018-09-29 20:52:30 UTC  

Democrats can get males on their side via soy conditioning and appealing to ideals of fairness.

2018-09-29 20:52:35 UTC  

Im fine with MRAs beeing seen as feminists

2018-09-29 20:52:41 UTC  

see

2018-09-29 20:52:51 UTC  

Regarding fairness, males react to the ideal and females react viscerally.

2018-09-29 20:53:06 UTC  

if YOU mean that you are for equal rights by saying you are a feminist, then, yes, most MRAs are feminists

2018-09-29 20:53:15 UTC  

I didn't ask what you're fine with, I asked what most who consider themselves an MRA would consider themselves.

2018-09-29 20:53:24 UTC  

But overall, republicans appeal to masculine drives and democrats to feminine.

2018-09-29 20:53:39 UTC  

@Schedrevka well, again that depends on how YOU define those terms

2018-09-29 20:53:53 UTC  

In regards to MRA, thats pretty straighforward

2018-09-29 20:53:58 UTC  

I'm rather upset about the amount of males who can't get their nut up and end up siding with the women.

2018-09-29 20:54:10 UTC  

It depends on the individual's definition. Do you think most MRA's definition of 'feminism' would be something they ascribe to themselves.

2018-09-29 20:54:21 UTC  

@schred

2018-09-29 20:54:49 UTC  

@Schedrevka well some will tell you it depends on what you mean by feminism

2018-09-29 20:54:52 UTC  

If you walked up and asked the average MRA "do you consider yourself a feminist" and only allowed yes, or no, do you think they would say yes or no?

2018-09-29 20:55:16 UTC  

He's got ya Punk.

2018-09-29 20:55:23 UTC  

Because you're doing the exact same thing here by forcing your definition onto others and expecting everyone to agree with it.

2018-09-29 20:55:27 UTC  

@Schedrevka after all, you can discuss concepts without agreeing on definitions, cant you?#

2018-09-29 20:56:10 UTC  

Why are you even making the case that MRAs would be feminist?

2018-09-29 20:56:11 UTC  

The point is that your definition of "MRA just means you want men to be treated well" isn't the common definition of MRA.

2018-09-29 20:56:21 UTC  

No.

2018-09-29 20:56:25 UTC  

The common definition

2018-09-29 20:56:33 UTC  

is that you advocate for the rights of men

2018-09-29 20:57:12 UTC  

I don't think the founding fathers were MRAs.

2018-09-29 20:57:12 UTC  

and if you dont want any human to be tortured, you are

2018-09-29 20:57:48 UTC  

I don't even have a bad opinion of MRAs, I just don't think that your broad definition is the common one, or a useful one.

2018-09-29 20:59:27 UTC  

I think it is the common definition, wether or not it is useful depednds on how you look at it.

2018-09-29 20:59:53 UTC  

MRA has the word activist in it right there. Believing in equal rights for men does not make you an activist

2018-09-29 21:00:36 UTC  

@Bones If you do believe in equal rights or any at all you are typicly advocating for those.

2018-09-29 21:00:48 UTC  

eh, tbf the acronym means Men's rights advocate

2018-09-29 21:01:00 UTC  

@Redneo these folk need to watch some more of the Doc.

2018-09-29 21:01:10 UTC  

advocate and activist are similar, but I think the latter has a lot more of an active connotation to it

2018-09-29 21:01:13 UTC  
2018-09-29 21:01:58 UTC  

@yvaN_ehT_nioJ advocacy is one form of activism.Adocacy is definatly activis, activism is not neccessarily advocacy

2018-09-29 21:02:02 UTC  

If we go by Urban Dictionary's definition(which we all know from the last week is the arbiter of truth) all the definitions say activist and not advocate.

2018-09-29 21:02:43 UTC  

thats dumb that's like saying cum and piss is similar

2018-09-29 21:03:02 UTC  

And anyway, it poses the same problems as the whole "are you a feminist" thing. You can agree with something in name and it's stated goals but still consider yourself not a member of the group. MRAs similarly do not have a monopoly on egalitarianism and perfect evidence of that is the "mens liberation" approach to mens rights.

2018-09-29 21:04:01 UTC  

@Redneo Literally the first 2 minutes are this argument.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBZxa0GVmcs

2018-09-29 21:06:58 UTC  

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