@ryuplaneswalker we'll see. The first canon novel to the MCU that's not an adaptation is going to be about Thano's life

so we'll see then

What do you mean by not wanting people to be tortured means you'rea a mgtow?

If you think people should not be tortured due to human rights, you are advocating for the rights of humans. Including men. That makes you a MRA.

I can understand saying that makes you an MRA, though I'd disagree just as I'd disagree if you said it makes you a feminist, but what does that have to do with men giving up on women?

Oops

my bad

let me change that

not that the mainstream sees much of a difference

They should.

Yes

They should

Sorry, im a bit buzzed

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As Styx reported, Spice is very dangerous.

In my experience it does seem like a very large percent of MRAs are political/sexual identitarians. It seems like the ones who would be in favor of men's rights but aren't identitarians are much more likely to call themselves egalitarians or humanists

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no

@Schedrevka well the thing is,MRA is not a lable they made up. It was a labe

*lable feminists applied to MRAs and they accepted

What difference does that make? If you're forming your identity around your activism for men's rights and in being a man as your defining trait you're an identitarian.

to quote a prolific MRA "If you are not both an MRA and an WRA, you are not egalitarian, if you arent either, you are not a humanist"

But there is a difference between being an MRA and being for men's(and human's) rights, just as there's a difference between being for women's rights and being a feminist

yes?

So then that quote is false.

being for mens rights definatly does make you an MRA just as being for womens rights makes you a WRA

Being and *activist* for men's rights makes you an MRA.

Or an *advocate*

Which ive seen MRA to mean to at least some degree of recularity as well

Do you think most who consider themselves an MRA would consider themselves feminists?

not that its much of a difference "to advocate" is an action

No, becouse feminism has never been about womens rights

Not even 150 years ago

They WOULD consider themselves to be WRAs

So I've been thinking

Plenty of feminists are going to say "if you're for women's rights you're a feminist". You're doing the exact same thing here, the only difference is you think you're right just as many of them think they're right.

Republicans can get women on their side via family ingrained values.

Except MRA is LITERALLY just the noun to the verb

Also

According to whom?