not like i collect them or anything either, but...

jail

no loisence no knife

only jail

If government cant keep track of how many illegals there are in my country,

I should not be expected to keep track of how many knives are in my house

nah, i live in USA, they'll kill me when they come for my guns.

with their guns

lol then your good

Ya, not entirely sure I agree with people's idea of progress anyway.

progress is when you ALL benefit from it, not just one group

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For what time?

for as long as you can keep that society going

i guess? 😛

'Progressive' is a poorly thought out marketing campaign that gained its own life and got away from its creators.
Progress implies movement. Movement away from something and movement towards something. If it's away from something, that something must have already been in existence - probably for a long time. If it's towards something, that something doesn't exist and may not even be real. How will you know when you reach it? What happens to the movement when you do?

It's perpetual revolution that must continually find things to revolt against in order to justify existing.

Progress is going from "Welp i have a splinter in me, guess i'll die" to "aww yiss, i can afford antibiotics and stay alive" 😛

I guess if your goal is to not die and you can afford the means to stay alive...

That's a pretty simple goal these days, if you believe the above charts.

In western nations our poor die of obesity related diseases far, far, far more than starvation.

Not dying is a simple goal?

Hmm...

Yes there are homeless people who die of exposure but that's usually due to substance abuse and not seeking shelter.

Oh, you mean to certain things

well my example is a bit random and oddly specific,

But the idea of "progress" as a society, would mean something that everyone benefits from,

You can't fix inequality, but you can progress society so that the bottom is still going great,
No one would be against helping the bottom up,

The issue is that people want to help the bottom up, by dragging the top down

And then its no longer progress for all

```I can afford antibiotics```
Yeah that's not gonna be a thing for much longer lol

well, you can still afford them, they just stop having use 😛

kind of like a woman outside the kitchen 😉

No I mean the escalation of prices due to insurance, like the >$100 gauze from the hospital etc

true, you americans need to get your medical bill issue together

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/Causes_of_death_by_age_group.png

I object to the idea that people are dropping like flies because they can't afford antibiotics.

well that wasn't my point either 😛

The real issue is people going into debt slavery because of medical bills

Well

Not exactly.

My point was that people in the 1700's would die from a splinter due to infection, and now that we can use anti-biotics we can stay alive with it (and cleaner homes) hence we've progressed to a safter society

Have you guys heard of Precision medecine?

There are ways to ameliorate the cost of medical services but the important thing to remember is that ***medical services have a cost that has to be borne by someone***.

There is no free.

So does the military

The antibiotics we now have may just be the cure for the future