Message from @R9b1t

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2018-09-30 16:39:55 UTC  

Utopian absolutist thinking. The world isn't 100% absolutely perfect therefore everything is a terrible failure. No shades of grey.

2018-09-30 16:40:27 UTC  

Steven pinker has shown a ton of data about this. The world is much better off than ever before

2018-09-30 16:40:51 UTC  

And currently, we have less poverty, less hunger, less suffering than ever before

2018-09-30 16:41:40 UTC  

less suffering? Hmm, kind of depends on how you define that...

2018-09-30 16:43:33 UTC  

Fuck off Jordan peterson

2018-09-30 16:44:27 UTC  

A cop made a bad call once when someone wouldn't comply with instructions and a black man got shot. All cops are evil racists.
One man out of 100,000 commits rape. All men are rapists.
There's a perfect flawless utopia with no suffering or deprivation just over the horizon and if you don get in line with my ideology you're personally preventing that utopia from coming about.

2018-09-30 16:46:10 UTC  

I don't understand. How can you have a utopia without things like hate and suffering. Hate is Love, Love is Hate. And there is no joy without suffering.

2018-09-30 16:47:12 UTC  

That's why the utopia is always kind of nebulous. They want each person to imagine their own version which is perfect to them. If they make the utopia a concrete thing then it wouldn't be utopia to all people.

2018-09-30 16:47:34 UTC  

Even to the person imagining it, after a time.

2018-09-30 16:48:25 UTC  

Anyone trying to sell you utopia is a fool or a liar. Any world inhabited by humans is going to be just as flawed as humans are.

2018-09-30 16:48:33 UTC  

I guess when you start and run countries that ran for hundreds of years you do a bad job

2018-09-30 16:49:18 UTC  

There will always be inequality, violence, hate, injustice, jealously, bias, etc. Always. Anyone who says otherwise is either an idiot or wants their boot on your neck.

2018-09-30 16:49:28 UTC  

Things can get better.

2018-09-30 16:49:38 UTC  

Things have been getting better steadily.

2018-09-30 16:49:43 UTC  

But things will never be perfect.

2018-09-30 16:50:03 UTC  

Only personal perfects

2018-09-30 16:50:08 UTC  

We can’t all have it good

2018-09-30 16:50:26 UTC  

Well we could but it won’t be perfect

2018-09-30 16:50:35 UTC  

Also @Timcast if you think that what we've been doing for the past 100+ years has been working really well and that it shouldn't be radically altered, welcome to conservatism.

2018-09-30 16:50:35 UTC  

And we’d probably all be starving

2018-09-30 16:50:42 UTC  

even those cant be reality,

Perfection is an inspiration, not a goal

2018-09-30 16:52:23 UTC  

Successful civilizations are really, really hard to build and really, really easy to destroy. Therefore anyone advocating extreme, radical divergence from what has been demonstrated to be successful should be viewed with extreme skepticism.

2018-09-30 16:52:39 UTC  

^

2018-09-30 16:53:40 UTC  

gotta loisence for that knife

2018-09-30 16:53:47 UTC  

...

2018-09-30 16:53:47 UTC  

I'm not a conservative by any means, if something is genuinely better i'm all for it,

But "progress for the sake of progress", or in current year terms "I want to feel good helping people i consider lessers" Is not a good guidebook on improving society

2018-09-30 16:53:58 UTC  

Shit, I got a ton of knives. ..

2018-09-30 16:54:10 UTC  

not like i collect them or anything either, but...

2018-09-30 16:54:33 UTC  

jail

2018-09-30 16:54:40 UTC  

no loisence no knife

2018-09-30 16:54:43 UTC  

only jail

2018-09-30 16:54:48 UTC  

If government cant keep track of how many illegals there are in my country,

I should not be expected to keep track of how many knives are in my house

2018-09-30 16:54:52 UTC  

nah, i live in USA, they'll kill me when they come for my guns.

2018-09-30 16:55:03 UTC  

with their guns

2018-09-30 16:55:22 UTC  

lol then your good

2018-09-30 16:56:06 UTC  

Ya, not entirely sure I agree with people's idea of progress anyway.

2018-09-30 16:56:55 UTC  

progress is when you ALL benefit from it, not just one group

2018-09-30 16:57:14 UTC  

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2018-09-30 16:58:17 UTC  

For what time?