Honestly, you learn really well how to tell people what they want to hear and that's just an invaluable skill

Yes, thinking for yourself is something you have to learn.

that's where the emotion came from. In these other cases, where is it coming from?

Well, in all seriousness, I did learn how to think more clearly, from books. One of the books that has influenced the rigor of my thinking more than any other was Godel, Escher, Bach by Hofstadter.

Many people do not know how to think properly.

And there are always ways I can increase the rigor of my own thinking.

Eh, i don't pay much attention i figure if i am wrong someone will correct me, though, they will have to make more sense than my already established view on the subject.

We often argue that one should not be able to hold two contradicting beliefs in our head at the same time, but we do so all the time.

If two trains approach each other and we expect them to meet at a different time than they actually would, then that is a contradiction. But contradictions are not always obvious. A lot of contradictions actually require substantial thought to uncover. Any incorrectness in the body of our scientific knowledge is a contradiction with some other model.

The degree to which some contradictions become obvious to you depends on your intelligence, but no matter how intelligent you are, there are always contradictions whose uncovering are out of reach of your intelligence.

Trump announced the US is withdrawing from the vienna convention on diplomatic relations

Well that's nice, but it seems a bit unrelated to my question of where these people are getting their emotional attachment from.

because the ICJ wouldnt allow sanctions on Iran

Is it really just group think? Tribalism.

Where do they get their emotional attachment from? Their emotions of course. You have to inquire what particular emotional association they make in particular.

For women, for example, there is currently a sort of threat narrative, the predatory male.

You are asking why someone has an emotional attachment to a belief and at the same time you express wonder why you would be unable to reason them out of it.

They have not been reasoned into it.

No. I agreed to that.

I said it would put a nice little bow on it. I then questioned how these attachments were being formed. or Why.

Oh, I apologize.

I must have misunderstood.

I don't just get emotional about every little thing, there is generally a reason when i do.

Like if my door breaks, i don't start crying as if i lost a family member.

Oh, you want to understand the kind of psychological symbolism behind it?

What kind of meanings do they project onto events?

I am just curious. It's hard to say without a certian topic in mind.

That is an interesting question, yes.

But that's part of the issue, it seems they are emotional about a whole range of topics.

Fear is a prevalent, if not the most prevalent, operating factor.

And I don't know why.

Fear of the topic, or fear of what disagreeing/questioning would do?

But we also project fear into places, with all the -phobias, where there is none. Disgust plays a significant role at times.

Fear or hatred for the projected emotional meaning. For example, one narrative thread, although subconscious, in politics and feminism is fear of the predatory male.

ok, so that's just the topic.

And I am not validating it. I am just saying that is the emotional construct.

Sure. But considering how this emotional thing seems to cover multiple topics, it seems strange that would fit.

I think I get a sense of what you mean, but can you expand on it? I think you are on to something interesting.

I don't think it's interesting. I just keep coming back to tribalism, to peer pressure, fitting in, etc. That creates the emotions that reinforces these beliefs. I don't get it, though, so wonder if it something else.

Once you allow yourself to emotionally ignore facts for one topic, it gets really easy just to apply that to everything. and now that people can just find other people with the same thoughts and feelings so easily online, there's no incentive to try and reason things out

why challenge your views with people around you if you can just find people who already share the same thoughts

Ease.