Message from @Paradox
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They have these ideas because someone told them to have them and they never questioned it.
Why didn't they question it?
Because why?
Well I tend to question things, generally when they impact me, though, often when they don't.
So, why don't others?
I mean their professor told them.
Why don‘t others? Because they go to college and college got rid of critical thinking and replaced it with critical theory.
One of the most common reasons why people act irrationally is because they have become emotionally attached.
You want to reason them out of their belief, but you cannot reason someone out of something that they have not been reasoned into to begin with.
So, you have to go to college to learn how to think?
Or, rather, now that you don't learn to think in college it's not possible?
No, heavens no!
That's the last place you want to go nowadays.
No i think you have to go to college to learn WHAT to think.
If their reason for their belief was emotional, then it is hard to convince them with reason, instead of emotion.
Sure, I suppose that puts a nice little bow on the whole thing. Then it turns into what made it emotional.
School often favors regurgitation, it's how well you can mimic what your teacher believes
My grandmother wanted to belief that my grandfather's ghost was still in our house.
Should I have tried to reason her out of it?
They are not teaching HOW to think anymore and replaced it with courses that tell you WHAT to think.
To think you must be taught how? interesting...
The reason for her belief was entirely emotional.
Honestly, you learn really well how to tell people what they want to hear and that's just an invaluable skill
Yes, thinking for yourself is something you have to learn.
that's where the emotion came from. In these other cases, where is it coming from?
Well, in all seriousness, I did learn how to think more clearly, from books. One of the books that has influenced the rigor of my thinking more than any other was Godel, Escher, Bach by Hofstadter.
Many people do not know how to think properly.
And there are always ways I can increase the rigor of my own thinking.
Eh, i don't pay much attention i figure if i am wrong someone will correct me, though, they will have to make more sense than my already established view on the subject.
We often argue that one should not be able to hold two contradicting beliefs in our head at the same time, but we do so all the time.
If two trains approach each other and we expect them to meet at a different time than they actually would, then that is a contradiction. But contradictions are not always obvious. A lot of contradictions actually require substantial thought to uncover. Any incorrectness in the body of our scientific knowledge is a contradiction with some other model.
The degree to which some contradictions become obvious to you depends on your intelligence, but no matter how intelligent you are, there are always contradictions whose uncovering are out of reach of your intelligence.
Trump announced the US is withdrawing from the vienna convention on diplomatic relations
Well that's nice, but it seems a bit unrelated to my question of where these people are getting their emotional attachment from.
because the ICJ wouldnt allow sanctions on Iran
Is it really just group think? Tribalism.
Where do they get their emotional attachment from? Their emotions of course. You have to inquire what particular emotional association they make in particular.
For women, for example, there is currently a sort of threat narrative, the predatory male.
You are asking why someone has an emotional attachment to a belief and at the same time you express wonder why you would be unable to reason them out of it.
They have not been reasoned into it.
No. I agreed to that.
I said it would put a nice little bow on it. I then questioned how these attachments were being formed. or Why.
Oh, I apologize.