Message from @AdorableStormtrooper

Discord ID: 497856202873503764


2018-10-05 19:40:32 UTC  

you have yet to agree with me

2018-10-05 19:40:34 UTC  

It's actually not though, @Undead Mockingbird

2018-10-05 19:40:53 UTC  

(still looking btw)

2018-10-05 19:40:56 UTC  

It's not in your best interest to refuse to take advantage of the system

2018-10-05 19:41:02 UTC  

And milk it for all you can

2018-10-05 19:41:14 UTC  

And then bail out when the going gets tough

2018-10-05 19:41:24 UTC  

I can't believe we've survived to see an era where people are comfortable saying "No! I don't want meritocracy"

2018-10-05 19:41:24 UTC  

If you were the only one doing so, you might get away with it. But you are not, if the programs are systemic.

2018-10-05 19:41:40 UTC  

And yet here we are

2018-10-05 19:41:42 UTC  

@Undead Mockingbird Any system that holds my community and hence me back, is not a fair system. Meritocracy in a Multi Racial Society would create an Asian/White Elite, Affirmative Action gives someone who's black a statistical advantage, why would they oppose their own interest?

2018-10-05 19:41:45 UTC  

Wtf yes you do. Even if you were a weasel you'd say "I want meritocracy" with the intention to CHEAT at the meritocracy.

2018-10-05 19:41:48 UTC  

So, I rather give up some unfair perks to live in a fair society than vice versa.

2018-10-05 19:41:52 UTC  

In a society where plenty of people haven't earned shit

2018-10-05 19:42:04 UTC  

You are, convince others to join you. How do you do it?

2018-10-05 19:42:06 UTC  

That is precisely the clash between conservatism nowadays and liberalism.

2018-10-05 19:42:07 UTC  

This is like the bad guy saying "I want to tie that woman to the train tracks to see her head come off and red stuff shoot out."

2018-10-05 19:42:24 UTC  

It's just too on the nose. "I don't want meritocracy" What the FUCK IS HAPPENING

2018-10-05 19:42:27 UTC  

There isn't actually much of a clash between conservatism and liberalism right now

2018-10-05 19:42:43 UTC  

It's between socialism/Marxism and conservatism+liberalism

2018-10-05 19:42:44 UTC  

If you take your rightful place in your team, then your team has a better chance of winning, even if you have to give up being the captain of your team.

2018-10-05 19:42:48 UTC  

just type Toxic Meritocracy on Google

2018-10-05 19:43:09 UTC  

I'd really rather do no such thing.

2018-10-05 19:43:21 UTC  

I feel like you don't really understand your opposition

2018-10-05 19:43:25 UTC  

Yes, that was the logical next step in this progression, to attack meritocracy.

2018-10-05 19:43:28 UTC  

Just like I don't wanna watch Maury.

2018-10-05 19:43:31 UTC  

And so are attempting to attack them from your axioms

2018-10-05 19:43:32 UTC  

Why depress yourself.

2018-10-05 19:44:04 UTC  

Meritocracy stands in the way of this benefit peddling precisely in the way I tried to explain above.

2018-10-05 19:44:17 UTC  

Because the blunt pursuit of "happiness" is not a path to fulfillment

2018-10-05 19:44:20 UTC  

And we will all suffer from it.

2018-10-05 19:44:25 UTC  

We have fallen so, so, so far now.

2018-10-05 19:44:45 UTC  

```It is in YOUR interest to preserve meritocracy, even if it means that you might not be shoved into a position you are unqualified for.```

Here's what I'm hearing, "It's in your interest to have White Man in Power.

2018-10-05 19:44:47 UTC  

How can I make a living when people are taking sledgehammers to the ENTIRE STRUCTURE we're trying to build.

2018-10-05 19:45:05 UTC  

It's not even there anymore. We're trying to REBUILD IT and people are scrapping the construction site.

2018-10-05 19:45:09 UTC  

You're still arguing from your own axioms, @Undead Mockingbird

2018-10-05 19:45:11 UTC  

Okay, kids:

Let's take this example. Remember Lord of the Rings?

What was the reason they decided to throw the Ring into Mount Doom instead of using it for themselves?

If you can answer that question truthfully, you understand why meritocracy is important.

2018-10-05 19:45:23 UTC  

Hell, we're drawing the blueprints, and people are attacking the blueprints with swords and axes.

2018-10-05 19:45:28 UTC  

Stop doing the same thing

2018-10-05 19:45:29 UTC  

What the FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE.

2018-10-05 19:45:32 UTC  

cuz Sauron would win 😛

2018-10-05 19:45:44 UTC  

Sauron did nothing wrong