Message from @AdorableStormtrooper

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2018-10-05 19:46:39 UTC  

They replaced him with a troll.

2018-10-05 19:46:48 UTC  

Benefits peddling is the thing that destroys the wonderful machinery of meritocracy.

If I am not good enough for MIT then I would rather have to attend another school then making my way into it through cheating.

2018-10-05 19:46:51 UTC  

Because it destroyed the story.

2018-10-05 19:46:56 UTC  

wasn't Sauron just a big troll all along? 😄

2018-10-05 19:46:59 UTC  

How is Meritocracy good if it holds me people back? Any system where my community isn't a proportionate part of the top of unfair, because Equality.
Meritocracy is White Power.

2018-10-05 19:47:13 UTC  

If you don't care about meritocracy then why would you care if it's destroyed?

2018-10-05 19:47:15 UTC  

Letting Aragorn actually fight Sauron felt strange to everyone.

2018-10-05 19:47:17 UTC  

Affirmative action did precisely that:

It tried to achieve an outcome independently of meritocracy.

2018-10-05 19:47:54 UTC  

But it provides benefits to the right people, Me when i go to get a college admissions, job or govt loan.

2018-10-05 19:47:58 UTC  

And it's bad for me long term, because what happens if I get into Harvard because of my skin color?

Eventually I will ruin the value of my own degree because people are getting in for their skin color and not their skills.

2018-10-05 19:48:05 UTC  

this is an argument of pro nobless oblige vs pure meritocrecy

2018-10-05 19:48:07 UTC  

No it does not.

2018-10-05 19:48:10 UTC  

Jesus Christ.

2018-10-05 19:48:20 UTC  

Sure it does

2018-10-05 19:48:27 UTC  

I want a job, I get the job

2018-10-05 19:48:33 UTC  

Benefits are tangible and immediate

2018-10-05 19:48:35 UTC  

exactly

2018-10-05 19:48:36 UTC  

Stop arguing with Mockingbird. He's right.

2018-10-05 19:48:50 UTC  

Yes, that's great and many people did get their jobs that way nowadays.

Look at what it has done for us.

2018-10-05 19:48:59 UTC  

then we need to argue with him so strongly its clear his argumetn can witstand all critisism

2018-10-05 19:49:00 UTC  

Immediate Gratification = What Works in Democracy

2018-10-05 19:49:02 UTC  

Take the corn out of your ears, people.

2018-10-05 19:49:08 UTC  

Why should someone in a cushy job care?

2018-10-05 19:49:19 UTC  

Because it's the right thing to do.

2018-10-05 19:49:20 UTC  

Of course, once everyone starts cheating, there is no reason for you to play fair anymore.

2018-10-05 19:49:23 UTC  

😐

2018-10-05 19:49:23 UTC  

"the truth has been said, everone shut up now" non ironicly

2018-10-05 19:49:25 UTC  

oof

2018-10-05 19:49:28 UTC  

They disagree. What now?

2018-10-05 19:49:39 UTC  

Oh sorry, they disagree?

2018-10-05 19:49:40 UTC  

```Yes, that's great and many people did get their jobs that way nowadays.

Look at what it has done for us.```

who is *us* 🤔

2018-10-05 19:49:41 UTC  

No, it's not just the right thing to do. It's also better for you.

2018-10-05 19:49:45 UTC  

We have explanations, and they do not.

2018-10-05 19:49:53 UTC  

You can be rationally selfish about it. Ayn Rand wrote wonderful books about this.

2018-10-05 19:49:54 UTC  

We can forecast everything bad that will happen.

2018-10-05 19:50:01 UTC  

Their explanation is they like their job and don't see an issue with it

2018-10-05 19:50:03 UTC  

Demonstrable evidence.

2018-10-05 19:50:11 UTC  

You have to convince them to come to your side

2018-10-05 19:50:17 UTC  

If everybody plays by the rules of a good game, everybody will win.

It is not a zero sum game.

2018-10-05 19:50:18 UTC  

if a fly thought up the sun centered solar system before any man, he would still be right, even if he coulnt explain it

2018-10-05 19:50:19 UTC  

Before arguments based on your axioms will work