oh, so guy i knew had worked in high places where they had ran a lot of experiments and his conclusion was computer are and always will remain as 'tools', not agents, regardless of how smart you make them

that is the tldr

tell that to the oracle

while she laughs at you

so on account of him i consider the whole Terminator idea cool, but completely unrelated to reality

yeah and we know the purpose of the pyramids

If we understood the nature of intelligence itself, I'd agree, but we don't

@Ottobon The problem is that people will have a propensity to give the tools agency, because agency is the only model for productivity.

Well here is the thing..

if The AI overlords..

let me play video games..and feed me

I will welcome my new AI overlords.

Satisfying the agent is the purpose of our thoughts.

tbh, I won't mind living in a matrix style illusion

And that is why we are able to think in ways that satisfy the agent.

As long as I get to manipulate it

but you don't unless you are outside of it

Is the matrix style illusion..one where I get to play video games? or is the illusion video games?

Well, the matrix is stupid for economic reasons.

btw

Illusion video games huh ? Pervert

we are in the matrix... this is the simulation(s) the multiverse is constant... step in the direction of your desired path

There's not really any good purpose to spend the resources required to fire up the matrix.

@Senny Yep, and proud of it..bring on the Virtual Draenei Babes.

lol

@Abel Very important map.

Hentai bitches about to be real af

I dun care about Hentai Bitches.

I fear for your matrix

Same shit to me

just give me Captain Fareeya and I am good.

a lady friend who can drop kick demons and is hawt? I can live with that as an illusionary waifu

@xorgy the thing about agency is it presumes we understand consciousness and organic thought, and we don't, and we throw our (mis)understand of other people, people of malice, onto AI as if computers will or could become Hitler basically. In regards to Nano-bots its different, as they would be simple physical devices that could glitch out and consume incorrectly, but thats a totally separate theoretical issue

is that map accurate? did pasteurization fuck it up?

understand that there is infinite balance... everything has a purpose, epigenetics happen, but for every reaction there is an opposite. nihilism isn't wrong, but who waits around for nothing?

Thank you explaining why Antifa makes me afraid and urks me... they are Authoritarians, they oppress everyone around them. I had a hard time pinpointing why I do not like them. Not only they do violence and destruction to the communities they invade, they threaten people. The after effect is something I didn't think about also... @Timcast

The last release of antix (Linux distro) was called "heather heyer"
Another dev team fucked the CoC of social justice.

@Ottobon I mean, agency and consciousness are not necessarily a package deal.

Nor does it necessarily take _an understanding of consciousness_ to produce something conscious.

@halfthink Well, what did you expect? systemd haters are prone to dogmatic thinking.