Message from @citizen

Discord ID: 499042201037176851


2018-10-09 01:58:53 UTC  

While one?

2018-10-09 01:59:07 UTC  

While not many?

2018-10-09 01:59:12 UTC  

WHY NOT ALL!

2018-10-09 01:59:20 UTC  

WHAT DOES THAT MAKE US?!?!

2018-10-09 01:59:39 UTC  

✝ GAMERS ✝

2018-10-09 02:00:03 UTC  

Crusaders diddu nuffin

2018-10-09 02:00:07 UTC  

🕹

2018-10-09 02:00:58 UTC  

Reminding me of joysticks, I got a spagget to make

2018-10-09 02:01:21 UTC  

https://youtu.be/VCbay4_lfek Pachelbel's Captive Bird

2018-10-09 02:02:22 UTC  

This generates seething rage in at least a couple people I know.

2018-10-09 02:05:09 UTC  

Why

2018-10-09 02:05:14 UTC  

This sounds good

2018-10-09 02:10:32 UTC  

get een voice

2018-10-09 02:13:06 UTC  

He says, while not in voice

2018-10-09 02:13:12 UTC  

Unless it's just frozen for me

2018-10-09 02:13:21 UTC  

In which case fuck mobile discord with a rake

2018-10-09 02:13:57 UTC  

I wound up back in the conversation I linked earlier. I started bringing up Blackstone's Formulation and people started blocking me.

2018-10-09 02:14:09 UTC  

I'm pretty convinced we're fucked.

2018-10-09 02:14:38 UTC  

```
That's fair enough. I'm really trying to avoid bringing other testimonies into the matter, because the level of he-said she-said under-oath gets absolutely ridiculous. My general point is that this does NOT mean we 'wouldn't believe them'. It means we function under Blackstone's Formulation.

Here's principle laid out in full: Presume that Ford is telling the truth, and not even mistaken on who perpetrated an attack against her. Presume it WAS Kavanaugh. In such a case, Kavanaugh should face the full penalty of the law, if possible, and at LEAST be denied a seat on the supreme court.

Presume that Ford is lying. In such a case, Ford should be punished to the full extent of the law, because in such a case, Kavanaugh would, in fact, be the victim in the scenario.

When you say we should listen to accusers, I agree. When you say we should listen to victims, I agree. Where I disagree is in determining who the victim is without any evidence. Right now, it's come down to an unrelated Yearbook to try to catch Kavanaugh on Perjury, and Ford's witnesses, including her friend at the time, don't remember anything close to what she was supposed to have attended.

We have no real proof to go off of either way. If you're more interested in punishment for those who are potentially guilty, damned be the innocent, that's a lynch mob mentality and I won't have anything of it. I would rather live in a society that prefers not to see the innocent punished.```

2018-10-09 02:15:23 UTC  

we aint fucked yet, its always darkest before the dawn

2018-10-09 02:15:32 UTC  

and that aint a race thang

2018-10-09 02:15:48 UTC  

It's not even darkest yet.

2018-10-09 02:16:13 UTC  

What would be darkest?

2018-10-09 02:16:15 UTC  

The people I was arguing against are all for punishing innocents if it means they get to the guilty

2018-10-09 02:16:17 UTC  

Anarchy?

2018-10-09 02:16:24 UTC  

They're true fucking authoritarians.

2018-10-09 02:16:27 UTC  

And the worst part is

2018-10-09 02:16:28 UTC  

ive been able to convince people irl.... but on the internet i believe everyone is 10x past the extreme...

2018-10-09 02:16:30 UTC  

they think they're the liberals.

2018-10-09 02:16:44 UTC  

The great thing about SJW's is there are really good at pissing people off. They just can't stop themselves from trying to control everything

2018-10-09 02:16:58 UTC  

Eventually enough people will wake up

2018-10-09 02:17:01 UTC  

But there are so many people just going along with it.

2018-10-09 02:17:07 UTC  

People kept addressing me

2018-10-09 02:17:10 UTC  

@RyeNorth Maybe it's because people have forgotten the reason for justice

2018-10-09 02:17:12 UTC  

and I found a way to get back in the conversation

2018-10-09 02:17:12 UTC  

yeah, thats why you gotta shake em and make them think

2018-10-09 02:17:23 UTC  

I was able to address the shit people were asking me

2018-10-09 02:17:27 UTC  

We are no longer punishing people to keep them away

2018-10-09 02:17:29 UTC  

up until the point where the OP blocked me

2018-10-09 02:17:37 UTC  

We are punishing people to punish them

2018-10-09 02:17:58 UTC  

```Apparently unfriending wasn't enough. Congratulations on becoming the first person I've ever blocked, [Rye]```