Message from @tritrium

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2018-10-10 20:29:52 UTC  

sargon could meet trump if he really wanted to

2018-10-10 20:30:00 UTC  

That'd be interesting.

2018-10-10 20:30:06 UTC  

now his ego is going to inflate even more if such thing is even possible :^)

2018-10-10 20:30:45 UTC  

Carl can

2018-10-10 20:30:47 UTC  

t be slowed

2018-10-10 20:30:57 UTC  

he's like master god damned Yi except instead of having a fuckton of eyes and a sword

2018-10-10 20:31:01 UTC  

he has a fuckton of memes and tea

2018-10-10 20:31:24 UTC  

he just wanted to play video games

2018-10-10 20:31:28 UTC  

@ArdBoy Tim also covered blind hiring in his video 😉

2018-10-10 20:31:31 UTC  

didn't we all

2018-10-10 20:31:31 UTC  

it's definitely plausible for a poorly designed neural net to favor men. if it was trained on a set of resumes that were mostly men and was geared towards finding more resumes that looked like the training set.

2018-10-10 20:31:40 UTC  

I can understand his feelings

2018-10-10 20:31:56 UTC  

it's amazon employees, what do you expect ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

2018-10-10 20:32:00 UTC  

but it's probably possible to create an AI that treats women fairly.

2018-10-10 20:32:14 UTC  

not neutrally, but fairly.

2018-10-10 20:32:14 UTC  

That was all i wanted up until 2015

2018-10-10 20:32:24 UTC  

@Atkins Ye, that could be a serious issue. Even just how genders may present themselves in cover letters etc might effect it.

2018-10-10 20:32:37 UTC  

Perhaps it should be told that gender is a neutral variable?

2018-10-10 20:32:52 UTC  

well, it's not a neutral variable.

2018-10-10 20:32:59 UTC  

Ye, nucc gender from the selection. aim for equality of opportunity and genuine fairness.

2018-10-10 20:33:03 UTC  

Except that its not when all the other variables come in

2018-10-10 20:33:14 UTC  

Or as close as we can

2018-10-10 20:33:16 UTC  

unfortunately that is the reality yes

2018-10-10 20:33:36 UTC  

But if you are trying to make an ai as fair as possible then i dont see an alternative

2018-10-10 20:33:38 UTC  

blind systems will favor power

2018-10-10 20:33:42 UTC  

it shouldn't **reject** resumes for being from women, but it's definitely a factor that needs to be considered.

2018-10-10 20:33:43 UTC  

aside from a larger sample

2018-10-10 20:33:52 UTC  

we need regulation to prevent collapse

2018-10-10 20:34:00 UTC  

women need to be able to support themselves

2018-10-10 20:34:23 UTC  

dude women aren't in jeopardy here

2018-10-10 20:34:23 UTC  

One of the late night comedians did a blind hire thin

2018-10-10 20:34:23 UTC  

maybe we are in the good place

2018-10-10 20:34:25 UTC  

or perhaps we could just not have ai handle hiring people?

2018-10-10 20:34:31 UTC  

where people can decide to favor women a little bit

2018-10-10 20:34:36 UTC  

If its a learning AI then inevitably you gonna end up with exactly the same thing, men ending up being favored at the upper levels.
We already know why this is because biology

2018-10-10 20:34:47 UTC  

The issue is, if we push so hard to favor a gender, is that not just discrimination by another name?

2018-10-10 20:34:52 UTC  

do i have to post the chart again?

2018-10-10 20:34:53 UTC  

it is

2018-10-10 20:35:05 UTC  

but we cant allow algorithms to say women is a bad trait

2018-10-10 20:35:14 UTC  

we want to maximize efficiency

2018-10-10 20:35:22 UTC  

that means there are women who deserve to be in positions of power