Message from @RyeNorth

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2018-10-16 05:47:19 UTC  

If real communism hasn't been tried, then neither has real capitalism.
If real capitalism has been tried, then so has real communism.
Commies: capitalism and statism are the same thing. You can't have private property without a state.
Capitalists: socialism and statism are the same thing. You can't have private property and a state.

2018-10-16 05:53:39 UTC  

communism worked like planed.
its always been about enslaving whole host nation and ripping off everything.

and people who belive its something nice and good for people are just falling for their propaganda.

2018-10-16 05:56:23 UTC  

Communism can have good intentions and be completely wrong.

2018-10-16 05:56:26 UTC  

pathological altruism?

2018-10-16 05:56:35 UTC  

Two things can be true at once

2018-10-16 05:56:52 UTC  

To be honest, so does capitalism. It has the intention of benefiting from a service no one would do without payment

2018-10-16 05:57:00 UTC  

no. its sold as something with good intentions.

2018-10-16 05:57:22 UTC  

Naah, man.

2018-10-16 05:57:23 UTC  

but its always been about enslavement.

2018-10-16 05:57:42 UTC  

lmao the left has balls to do this for once

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/501634827645353994/060.jpg

2018-10-16 05:58:21 UTC  

of course you need support of people to gain power.
thats why its sold to working class as some kind of utopian dream and good.

2018-10-16 05:58:26 UTC  

I mean they cant meme. I didnt realize they steal memes as well.

2018-10-16 05:58:50 UTC  

Just wondering, who do alot of the people supporting socialism tend to be no working class

2018-10-16 05:59:05 UTC  

It actually IS true that Communism has never been attained.

2018-10-16 05:59:19 UTC  

Not in a national sense.

2018-10-16 05:59:50 UTC  

The problem is, that it has been tried TONS of times

2018-10-16 05:59:53 UTC  

and always ends the same.

2018-10-16 06:00:22 UTC  

it always enslaves nation and ripps off everything they have.

2018-10-16 06:00:29 UTC  

You're right.

2018-10-16 06:00:38 UTC  

The real question, though, is why?

2018-10-16 06:00:51 UTC  

You've got the 'What' correct.

2018-10-16 06:01:06 UTC  

thats the whole point of communism.

2018-10-16 06:01:09 UTC  

No.

2018-10-16 06:01:40 UTC  

Communism, in it's truest sense, is anarchism.

2018-10-16 06:02:09 UTC  

And yet, every time communism is tried, you get a murderous dictator.

2018-10-16 06:02:34 UTC  

Why do you think that is?

2018-10-16 06:03:31 UTC  

The answer is, in order to obtain that stateless society, everyone has to be on board.

2018-10-16 06:03:37 UTC  

because that leadership is always jews. and not the people of host naiton.

2018-10-16 06:03:41 UTC  

No.

2018-10-16 06:04:04 UTC  

USSR leadership was over 90% jews

2018-10-16 06:04:06 UTC  

Chairman Mao. Pol Pot.

2018-10-16 06:04:35 UTC  

Are you going to tell me that they were Jews?

2018-10-16 06:04:43 UTC  

revolution was also jews.

2018-10-16 06:04:47 UTC  

Just squnity eyed jews?

2018-10-16 06:04:58 UTC  

I disagree about communism's intentions being bad. While most people do have a tyrant in them, I do not think they set out to unleash it. The problem is that once they have committed to revolution it cannot be wrong in their own mind. They've simply invested too much in being right. But then things don't work out. Rather than accept their failure, their minds begin to warp. It cant be their fault. They're well educated, they've studied and planned. They know that this is the way to prosperity. How could it be going wrong? They cannot bear the thought that they were wrong. It must not be them, it has to be someone else. And that's when the monsters come out.

2018-10-16 06:05:34 UTC  

You're in large part right, Zuhayr.

2018-10-16 06:05:56 UTC  

What you're missing is that the goal of Communism is a stateless, classless society.

2018-10-16 06:06:33 UTC  

but relvolution was made by jews. and enslavement was the plan

2018-10-16 06:06:59 UTC  

That's enough gas out of you, man.

2018-10-16 06:08:06 UTC  

During the revolution, in order to get the world they've committed to, they put people in charge willing to make the decisions necessary to attain that goal.

2018-10-16 06:08:27 UTC  

That leader is given a monopoly on force.