Message from @RyeNorth
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If real communism hasn't been tried, then neither has real capitalism.
If real capitalism has been tried, then so has real communism.
Commies: capitalism and statism are the same thing. You can't have private property without a state.
Capitalists: socialism and statism are the same thing. You can't have private property and a state.
communism worked like planed.
its always been about enslaving whole host nation and ripping off everything.
and people who belive its something nice and good for people are just falling for their propaganda.
Communism can have good intentions and be completely wrong.
pathological altruism?
Two things can be true at once
To be honest, so does capitalism. It has the intention of benefiting from a service no one would do without payment
no. its sold as something with good intentions.
Naah, man.
but its always been about enslavement.
of course you need support of people to gain power.
thats why its sold to working class as some kind of utopian dream and good.
I mean they cant meme. I didnt realize they steal memes as well.
Just wondering, who do alot of the people supporting socialism tend to be no working class
It actually IS true that Communism has never been attained.
Not in a national sense.
The problem is, that it has been tried TONS of times
and always ends the same.
it always enslaves nation and ripps off everything they have.
You're right.
The real question, though, is why?
thats the whole point of communism.
No.
Communism, in it's truest sense, is anarchism.
And yet, every time communism is tried, you get a murderous dictator.
Why do you think that is?
The answer is, in order to obtain that stateless society, everyone has to be on board.
because that leadership is always jews. and not the people of host naiton.
No.
USSR leadership was over 90% jews
Chairman Mao. Pol Pot.
Are you going to tell me that they were Jews?
revolution was also jews.
Just squnity eyed jews?
I disagree about communism's intentions being bad. While most people do have a tyrant in them, I do not think they set out to unleash it. The problem is that once they have committed to revolution it cannot be wrong in their own mind. They've simply invested too much in being right. But then things don't work out. Rather than accept their failure, their minds begin to warp. It cant be their fault. They're well educated, they've studied and planned. They know that this is the way to prosperity. How could it be going wrong? They cannot bear the thought that they were wrong. It must not be them, it has to be someone else. And that's when the monsters come out.
You're in large part right, Zuhayr.
What you're missing is that the goal of Communism is a stateless, classless society.
but relvolution was made by jews. and enslavement was the plan
That's enough gas out of you, man.
During the revolution, in order to get the world they've committed to, they put people in charge willing to make the decisions necessary to attain that goal.
That leader is given a monopoly on force.