Message from @RyeNorth

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2018-10-16 05:59:05 UTC  

It actually IS true that Communism has never been attained.

2018-10-16 05:59:19 UTC  

Not in a national sense.

2018-10-16 05:59:50 UTC  

The problem is, that it has been tried TONS of times

2018-10-16 05:59:53 UTC  

and always ends the same.

2018-10-16 06:00:22 UTC  

it always enslaves nation and ripps off everything they have.

2018-10-16 06:00:29 UTC  

You're right.

2018-10-16 06:00:38 UTC  

The real question, though, is why?

2018-10-16 06:00:51 UTC  

You've got the 'What' correct.

2018-10-16 06:01:06 UTC  

thats the whole point of communism.

2018-10-16 06:01:09 UTC  

No.

2018-10-16 06:01:40 UTC  

Communism, in it's truest sense, is anarchism.

2018-10-16 06:02:09 UTC  

And yet, every time communism is tried, you get a murderous dictator.

2018-10-16 06:02:34 UTC  

Why do you think that is?

2018-10-16 06:03:31 UTC  

The answer is, in order to obtain that stateless society, everyone has to be on board.

2018-10-16 06:03:37 UTC  

because that leadership is always jews. and not the people of host naiton.

2018-10-16 06:03:41 UTC  

No.

2018-10-16 06:04:04 UTC  

USSR leadership was over 90% jews

2018-10-16 06:04:06 UTC  

Chairman Mao. Pol Pot.

2018-10-16 06:04:35 UTC  

Are you going to tell me that they were Jews?

2018-10-16 06:04:43 UTC  

revolution was also jews.

2018-10-16 06:04:47 UTC  

Just squnity eyed jews?

2018-10-16 06:04:58 UTC  

I disagree about communism's intentions being bad. While most people do have a tyrant in them, I do not think they set out to unleash it. The problem is that once they have committed to revolution it cannot be wrong in their own mind. They've simply invested too much in being right. But then things don't work out. Rather than accept their failure, their minds begin to warp. It cant be their fault. They're well educated, they've studied and planned. They know that this is the way to prosperity. How could it be going wrong? They cannot bear the thought that they were wrong. It must not be them, it has to be someone else. And that's when the monsters come out.

2018-10-16 06:05:34 UTC  

You're in large part right, Zuhayr.

2018-10-16 06:05:56 UTC  

What you're missing is that the goal of Communism is a stateless, classless society.

2018-10-16 06:06:33 UTC  

but relvolution was made by jews. and enslavement was the plan

2018-10-16 06:06:59 UTC  

That's enough gas out of you, man.

2018-10-16 06:08:06 UTC  

During the revolution, in order to get the world they've committed to, they put people in charge willing to make the decisions necessary to attain that goal.

2018-10-16 06:08:27 UTC  

That leader is given a monopoly on force.

2018-10-16 06:08:36 UTC  

I think that just adds to the problem. They believe that they're right, so any means is justified.

2018-10-16 06:08:46 UTC  

Part of the same feedback loop

2018-10-16 06:08:58 UTC  

Any time you give one person that much power, the power over life and death, they get drunk on it.

2018-10-16 06:09:26 UTC  

There have been exceptions, George Washington famously was one.

2018-10-16 06:09:49 UTC  

That was a different type of revolution.

2018-10-16 06:09:54 UTC  

Definitely

2018-10-16 06:10:04 UTC  

But he was a man who could have become a king and chose not to

2018-10-16 06:10:12 UTC  

The American Revolution was fought in rebellion to an outside force.

2018-10-16 06:10:21 UTC  

well, vaguely inside.

2018-10-16 06:10:30 UTC  

I know what ya mean

2018-10-16 06:10:43 UTC  

A war for independence is different than a communist revolution

2018-10-16 06:10:57 UTC  

Just wondering

2018-10-16 06:11:05 UTC  

because a communist revolution requires you to eliminate anyone incompatible with that revolution.