Message from @J.R. The Fool

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2018-10-17 07:32:11 UTC  

if the government should be an active caretaker, it would be providing electricity in the first place, not taxing the businesses that provide it

2018-10-17 07:32:19 UTC  

If you believe government shouldn't be given decisive power over wellbeing as I do, you start to really see where cuts could be made.

2018-10-17 07:32:36 UTC  

adding 70% to the price, without actually helping to provide the service, seems bizarre

2018-10-17 07:32:50 UTC  

I pay regular taxes for electricity 21%, then another tax on distribution and something for social security shit, then a green energy tax.
And on top of that an illegal extra tax (100€ a year) that will be abolished next year i believe, because its an illegal doubletax.
But forget about seeing your money back oh no thats not how government rolls here.

2018-10-17 07:32:57 UTC  

Presumably, the tax is a fee for the public property used in the process.

2018-10-17 07:33:10 UTC  

which ends in an electric bill that is +70% tax

2018-10-17 07:33:25 UTC  

and 30% electric usage cost + distributing/maintenance costs.

2018-10-17 07:33:31 UTC  

Really little difference between reality and an ideological AnCap paradise.

2018-10-17 07:33:34 UTC  

green energy tax? <:thonkraka:430185885720510475>

2018-10-17 07:33:45 UTC  

except in Acapistan there is no public property.

2018-10-17 07:34:00 UTC  

it is bizarre

2018-10-17 07:34:12 UTC  

Reasoning is that it would incentivize ppl to use less electricity

2018-10-17 07:34:22 UTC  

lol

2018-10-17 07:34:27 UTC  

Be realistic.

2018-10-17 07:34:32 UTC  

That was never the goal.

2018-10-17 07:34:38 UTC  

problem is that the poor of society got serious financial problems now

2018-10-17 07:34:50 UTC  

That's just the excuse that was given.

2018-10-17 07:35:03 UTC  

The only feasible solutions to energy seem to be Nuclear and hydroelectricity

2018-10-17 07:35:05 UTC  

ofc not its all about milking everyone dry to fund that goddamn bureaucracy

2018-10-17 07:35:06 UTC  

People who levy taxes have this nasty habit of telling you 'why' you need the tax on it.

2018-10-17 07:35:15 UTC  

Hey y'all I'm new so I just wanna introduce myself, not tryna interrupt or anything, but what exactly are we talking about?

2018-10-17 07:35:19 UTC  

or telling you 'what' it's going to fund.

2018-10-17 07:35:25 UTC  

electricity

2018-10-17 07:35:32 UTC  

electricity, taxes, capitalism, the usual

2018-10-17 07:35:39 UTC  

Oh fun lmao

2018-10-17 07:35:52 UTC  

This is a great place to get into an argument for hours.

2018-10-17 07:35:52 UTC  

Time to s c r o l

2018-10-17 07:35:57 UTC  

lol

2018-10-17 07:36:04 UTC  

Well let me put it like this

2018-10-17 07:36:06 UTC  

solar, wind, and geothermal are the most realiable afaict

2018-10-17 07:36:19 UTC  

I do insist that you scroll up to my 'Apple' explanation of capitalism

2018-10-17 07:36:19 UTC  

I used to live in a 2 bedroom appartment 130 m²

2018-10-17 07:36:32 UTC  

Now i live in a single appartment 65 m²

2018-10-17 07:36:39 UTC  

I pay more for heating now

2018-10-17 07:36:44 UTC  

then i ever did at the other place

2018-10-17 07:36:49 UTC  

rip

2018-10-17 07:36:54 UTC  

Even tho, now i only have 1 heater working

2018-10-17 07:36:55 UTC  

lmao this dude using meters like we're in eu

2018-10-17 07:37:01 UTC  

and at the other place i had 7

2018-10-17 07:37:06 UTC  

we don't ever heat, but we still gotta pay for it

2018-10-17 07:37:20 UTC  

Difference is: Other place had a guy check the meter every year.
This place got "smart meters"