Message from @tritrium

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2018-10-17 07:29:33 UTC  

They'd rather pay a guy a $50 connection fee.

2018-10-17 07:29:52 UTC  

Tbh i would too

2018-10-17 07:30:06 UTC  

I got "smart meters" on my heaters

2018-10-17 07:30:17 UTC  

I live smaller then before

2018-10-17 07:30:22 UTC  

better isolated then before

2018-10-17 07:30:29 UTC  

And i have never in my life paid more for heating then now

2018-10-17 07:30:33 UTC  

does electricity even need to be taxed?

2018-10-17 07:30:39 UTC  

It is here

2018-10-17 07:30:47 UTC  

I mean...

2018-10-17 07:30:53 UTC  

but why, what's the reasoning behind it?

2018-10-17 07:30:56 UTC  

And its not even a light tax, its a ridiculous tax

2018-10-17 07:31:10 UTC  

It depends on what you think the government should be doing, Shin.

2018-10-17 07:31:32 UTC  

If you think the government should be active in a caretaker role for people

2018-10-17 07:31:38 UTC  

then the taxes are necessary.

2018-10-17 07:31:51 UTC  

And, in fact, more taxes would be needed to strengthen that role.

2018-10-17 07:32:11 UTC  

if the government should be an active caretaker, it would be providing electricity in the first place, not taxing the businesses that provide it

2018-10-17 07:32:19 UTC  

If you believe government shouldn't be given decisive power over wellbeing as I do, you start to really see where cuts could be made.

2018-10-17 07:32:36 UTC  

adding 70% to the price, without actually helping to provide the service, seems bizarre

2018-10-17 07:32:50 UTC  

I pay regular taxes for electricity 21%, then another tax on distribution and something for social security shit, then a green energy tax.
And on top of that an illegal extra tax (100€ a year) that will be abolished next year i believe, because its an illegal doubletax.
But forget about seeing your money back oh no thats not how government rolls here.

2018-10-17 07:32:57 UTC  

Presumably, the tax is a fee for the public property used in the process.

2018-10-17 07:33:10 UTC  

which ends in an electric bill that is +70% tax

2018-10-17 07:33:25 UTC  

and 30% electric usage cost + distributing/maintenance costs.

2018-10-17 07:33:31 UTC  

Really little difference between reality and an ideological AnCap paradise.

2018-10-17 07:33:34 UTC  

green energy tax? <:thonkraka:430185885720510475>

2018-10-17 07:33:45 UTC  

except in Acapistan there is no public property.

2018-10-17 07:34:00 UTC  

it is bizarre

2018-10-17 07:34:12 UTC  

Reasoning is that it would incentivize ppl to use less electricity

2018-10-17 07:34:22 UTC  

lol

2018-10-17 07:34:27 UTC  

Be realistic.

2018-10-17 07:34:32 UTC  

That was never the goal.

2018-10-17 07:34:38 UTC  

problem is that the poor of society got serious financial problems now

2018-10-17 07:34:50 UTC  

That's just the excuse that was given.

2018-10-17 07:35:03 UTC  

The only feasible solutions to energy seem to be Nuclear and hydroelectricity

2018-10-17 07:35:05 UTC  

ofc not its all about milking everyone dry to fund that goddamn bureaucracy

2018-10-17 07:35:06 UTC  

People who levy taxes have this nasty habit of telling you 'why' you need the tax on it.

2018-10-17 07:35:15 UTC  

Hey y'all I'm new so I just wanna introduce myself, not tryna interrupt or anything, but what exactly are we talking about?

2018-10-17 07:35:19 UTC  

or telling you 'what' it's going to fund.

2018-10-17 07:35:25 UTC  

electricity

2018-10-17 07:35:32 UTC  

electricity, taxes, capitalism, the usual

2018-10-17 07:35:39 UTC  

Oh fun lmao

2018-10-17 07:35:52 UTC  

This is a great place to get into an argument for hours.