Message from @velvitonator

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2018-10-20 19:54:31 UTC  

Two people subscribing to different theories can both claim that the same historical event vindicates their theory

2018-10-20 19:54:36 UTC  

yeah that

2018-10-20 19:54:51 UTC  

we can keep going further back, it just keeps coming back

2018-10-20 19:54:54 UTC  

the nazi's

2018-10-20 19:55:17 UTC  

@velvitonator a person looks at a number from the right saying it's a 6
the other person on the left of the number says it's a 9
they will both insist theirs is the right perspective

2018-10-20 19:55:28 UTC  

point is that its about authoritarianism

2018-10-20 19:55:41 UTC  

and we've had that since probably the stone age

2018-10-20 19:55:45 UTC  

exactly

2018-10-20 19:56:08 UTC  

the story of 1984 is not the relevant part or the one needing to be compared

2018-10-20 19:56:15 UTC  

its the tactics and methods

2018-10-20 19:56:24 UTC  

It's just a matter of time and effort that people realize Gamergate was evidence that SJWs were (and are) cancerous.

2018-10-20 19:56:48 UTC  

Just like it was a matter of time and effort to out Carlos Mencia as a joke thief.

2018-10-20 19:58:43 UTC  

they're attacking meritorious aspects of society first

2018-10-20 19:58:45 UTC  

namely gaming

2018-10-20 19:59:26 UTC  

gaming is the ultimate meritocracy, it requires reflexes, concentration, it requires patience, will, wits, strategy & generally skill

2018-10-20 19:59:36 UTC  

you either have that or you don't

2018-10-20 19:59:41 UTC  

there's no feigning skill

2018-10-20 20:00:11 UTC  

competing is i think more broadly relevant

2018-10-20 20:00:24 UTC  

they detest that because it goes against the "everyone works the same effort, those who think differently are just spreading capitalist propaganda, there's no such thing as passion"

2018-10-20 20:00:30 UTC  

narrative

2018-10-20 20:00:52 UTC  

@tritrium I get what you're saying, but I'd caution you about trying to use fiction to bolster. For rhetorical purposes, sure, but I saw a lot of people on the far left bolstering their points with stuff like "REMEMBER THAT MARVEL MOVIE!?" as if that was an argument

2018-10-20 20:00:57 UTC  

you can't cheat against a situation where 2 are placed at the same capability & your skill decides the winner

2018-10-20 20:01:06 UTC  

yeah but im not using fiction

2018-10-20 20:01:16 UTC  

they DETEST that

2018-10-20 20:01:30 UTC  

what do you, as a tyrant do if you want to take over a society?

2018-10-20 20:01:39 UTC  

you first start with 3 things

2018-10-20 20:01:42 UTC  

merits

2018-10-20 20:01:43 UTC  

art

2018-10-20 20:01:46 UTC  

& comedy

2018-10-20 20:02:04 UTC  

merits suggest that some people can do more than others

2018-10-20 20:02:16 UTC  

and if that's the case, potentially someone can do better than the tyrant

2018-10-20 20:02:23 UTC  

the satanic panic had rob halfard needing to testify in court over moralist lunatics playing a song backwards and "hearing" something in it.

2018-10-20 20:02:48 UTC  

You had kids whipped up in the frenzy getting people locked up for years over pure lies in the middle of it

2018-10-20 20:02:56 UTC  

art, art is the voice of humanity, and it requires free expression to function well, which is dangerous for a tyrant

2018-10-20 20:03:04 UTC  

art immitates life

2018-10-20 20:03:10 UTC  

you don't want others knowing

2018-10-20 20:03:11 UTC  

its mass hysteria

2018-10-20 20:03:25 UTC  

you have to keep it hidden

2018-10-20 20:03:25 UTC  

and mass hysteria is fertile ground for authoritarianism

2018-10-20 20:03:41 UTC  

and third