Message from @zutt

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2018-10-21 17:05:28 UTC  

In Germany the Voting Computers are dead. Our CCC has completely destroyed those

2018-10-21 17:05:40 UTC  

Doc they have this weird id fetish here in UK as well

2018-10-21 17:05:53 UTC  

theres voting ID here in holland too

2018-10-21 17:06:06 UTC  

Honestly paper balots work just fine in my experience

2018-10-21 17:06:29 UTC  

You have almost 100% certainty no foreign influence will fuck you

2018-10-21 17:06:35 UTC  

If you use those

2018-10-21 17:06:36 UTC  

Not in the US!

2018-10-21 17:06:49 UTC  

you can have fake ballots shoved in there

2018-10-21 17:06:49 UTC  

in those countrys that don't have no Voter ID Laws.

2018-10-21 17:06:58 UTC  

no system is flawless

2018-10-21 17:07:07 UTC  

You can doc but its not as easy to do

2018-10-21 17:07:08 UTC  

Yeah, but only in small numbers so its pretty safe

2018-10-21 17:07:20 UTC  

At least in my country you have voter commision

2018-10-21 17:07:38 UTC  

Which is made by ppl nominated by political parties

2018-10-21 17:07:55 UTC  

So each party has their observers and counters involved

2018-10-21 17:08:04 UTC  

you need to have access to the voting paper wich isn't easy and they are printed in a non standard format. with a lighter paper (under 80g)

2018-10-21 17:08:06 UTC  

So any cheating is hard to organize

2018-10-21 17:08:35 UTC  

In the US you can cheat by letting dead people vote....

2018-10-21 17:08:36 UTC  

The real danger in my country is overnight

2018-10-21 17:08:38 UTC  

or illegal aliens

2018-10-21 17:08:59 UTC  

Where you could theoreticaly have someone getting to voting chamber and add things

2018-10-21 17:09:04 UTC  

you guys dont need to convince me on the computer vs paper, its arguing semantics

and i'm right there with you on voter ID's

2018-10-21 17:09:05 UTC  

But then again

2018-10-21 17:09:11 UTC  

Because we have voter id

2018-10-21 17:09:20 UTC  

We know the number of ppl who came

2018-10-21 17:09:27 UTC  

And number of votes

2018-10-21 17:09:31 UTC  

yes

2018-10-21 17:09:33 UTC  

Its easy to check it

2018-10-21 17:09:36 UTC  

Thing is we know here who came

2018-10-21 17:10:08 UTC  

Thats why i cant understand how do you even organize vote without the id

2018-10-21 17:10:22 UTC  

Like i always think them mad

2018-10-21 17:10:26 UTC  

For doing it

2018-10-21 17:11:06 UTC  

Yeah, exactly. How do you know that the person voting is allowed to vote and a member of your county?

2018-10-21 17:11:07 UTC  

Btw in my country we have 2 day voting time

2018-10-21 17:11:27 UTC  

It starts on friday around 14:00

2018-10-21 17:11:38 UTC  

And ends saturday the same time

2018-10-21 17:11:40 UTC  

the only difference with our system and the US one
Is that we declare which forms of identification is legal ID

2018-10-21 17:11:54 UTC  

With break between 22 - 10

2018-10-21 17:12:06 UTC  

most states have some form of ID required, but theres no set on what is a valid id

2018-10-21 17:13:40 UTC  

Something like that is undermining democracy...