Message from @Firefairy

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2020-03-05 13:22:04 UTC  

Basically the idea is the ideological belief that pregnancy is not natural but oppression of women by men.

2020-03-05 13:22:56 UTC  

Which is a tenet of several subsets of radical feminism, yes.

2020-03-05 13:22:58 UTC  

It might not be a fully conscious concept stated yet but this is the only Rational conclusion to their radical encouragement.

2020-03-05 13:23:14 UTC  

I think we might be differing on the definition of "fundamentalist" more than anything else.

2020-03-05 13:23:48 UTC  

Radicalized and fundamentalist aren't synonyms, even though you see them used that way a lot when discussing religions lately.

2020-03-05 13:24:11 UTC  

But modern Feminism is a religion.

2020-03-05 13:24:36 UTC  

Cult. No religious aspects as an overall phenomenon yet.

2020-03-05 13:24:44 UTC  

Not all cults are religions.

2020-03-05 13:25:16 UTC  

There are plenty of neopagan woo variants, but they aren't core (yet).

2020-03-05 13:25:37 UTC  

They are core. Its just a matter of admitting it.

2020-03-05 13:25:54 UTC  

You don't have to be a relgion to have fundamentalism, though, so it's a moot point either way.

2020-03-05 13:27:28 UTC  

But yeah, all the current talking points about abortion is abhorrent.

2020-03-05 13:27:46 UTC  

It is slowly turning me pro-life.

2020-03-05 13:28:00 UTC  

"Clumps of cells"

2020-03-05 13:28:17 UTC  

"Aren't you clumps of cells?",

2020-03-05 13:28:26 UTC  

You'd hate some of the more rational arguments, then.

2020-03-05 13:28:26 UTC  

"That's different."

2020-03-05 13:28:47 UTC  

There is a simple argument for abortion.

2020-03-05 13:29:00 UTC  

It doesn't matter what we do.

2020-03-05 13:29:09 UTC  

Abortions would only go up.

2020-03-05 13:29:22 UTC  

No, I mean actually logically consistent arguments.

2020-03-05 13:29:45 UTC  

There are some. But they don't go the "clumps of cells, but somehow different from me being a clump of cells".

2020-03-05 13:29:50 UTC  

route.

2020-03-05 13:29:57 UTC  

I don't mind logical arguments.

2020-03-05 13:30:19 UTC  

The problem is that the left is retarded with their points.

2020-03-05 13:30:30 UTC  

Frequently, yeah.

2020-03-05 13:30:35 UTC  

When they can actually present them in a smart way.

2020-03-05 13:30:58 UTC  

It would be like letting Donald Trump do the pro-life argument.

2020-03-05 13:31:20 UTC  

LOl

2020-03-05 13:31:49 UTC  

Sorry, just picturing that.

2020-03-05 13:31:57 UTC  

Not laughing at you.

2020-03-05 13:32:15 UTC  

But that is how it is like isn't it?

2020-03-05 13:32:52 UTC  

Just constant Donald Trump quality arguments.

2020-03-05 13:33:16 UTC  

And this isn't a knock on his intelligence.

2020-03-05 13:33:45 UTC  

Just how he goes about explaining his points.

2020-03-05 13:34:45 UTC  

"Lottas Babies, lottas corpses. You should see the abortion clinics. It is like stepping into a German Nursery for Jews. Really bad stuff."

2020-03-05 13:35:52 UTC  

The Left's arguments tend to boil to...

2020-03-05 13:36:28 UTC  

"But this is an inconvenient situation therefore I should be allowed to do X because I am special."

2020-03-05 13:37:27 UTC  

Now my personal belief in abortion is this.

2020-03-05 13:37:41 UTC  

I will let women decide if it should be legal or not.

2020-03-05 13:38:12 UTC  

But if they can kill a kid, I should be able to leave it without giving them money all the time.