Message from @Firefairy

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2020-03-05 13:22:58 UTC  

It might not be a fully conscious concept stated yet but this is the only Rational conclusion to their radical encouragement.

2020-03-05 13:23:14 UTC  

I think we might be differing on the definition of "fundamentalist" more than anything else.

2020-03-05 13:23:48 UTC  

Radicalized and fundamentalist aren't synonyms, even though you see them used that way a lot when discussing religions lately.

2020-03-05 13:24:11 UTC  

But modern Feminism is a religion.

2020-03-05 13:24:36 UTC  

Cult. No religious aspects as an overall phenomenon yet.

2020-03-05 13:24:44 UTC  

Not all cults are religions.

2020-03-05 13:25:16 UTC  

There are plenty of neopagan woo variants, but they aren't core (yet).

2020-03-05 13:25:37 UTC  

They are core. Its just a matter of admitting it.

2020-03-05 13:25:54 UTC  

You don't have to be a relgion to have fundamentalism, though, so it's a moot point either way.

2020-03-05 13:27:28 UTC  

But yeah, all the current talking points about abortion is abhorrent.

2020-03-05 13:27:46 UTC  

It is slowly turning me pro-life.

2020-03-05 13:28:00 UTC  

"Clumps of cells"

2020-03-05 13:28:17 UTC  

"Aren't you clumps of cells?",

2020-03-05 13:28:26 UTC  

You'd hate some of the more rational arguments, then.

2020-03-05 13:28:26 UTC  

"That's different."

2020-03-05 13:28:47 UTC  

There is a simple argument for abortion.

2020-03-05 13:29:00 UTC  

It doesn't matter what we do.

2020-03-05 13:29:09 UTC  

Abortions would only go up.

2020-03-05 13:29:22 UTC  

No, I mean actually logically consistent arguments.

2020-03-05 13:29:45 UTC  

There are some. But they don't go the "clumps of cells, but somehow different from me being a clump of cells".

2020-03-05 13:29:50 UTC  

route.

2020-03-05 13:29:57 UTC  

I don't mind logical arguments.

2020-03-05 13:30:19 UTC  

The problem is that the left is retarded with their points.

2020-03-05 13:30:30 UTC  

Frequently, yeah.

2020-03-05 13:30:35 UTC  

When they can actually present them in a smart way.

2020-03-05 13:30:58 UTC  

It would be like letting Donald Trump do the pro-life argument.

2020-03-05 13:31:20 UTC  

LOl

2020-03-05 13:31:49 UTC  

Sorry, just picturing that.

2020-03-05 13:31:57 UTC  

Not laughing at you.

2020-03-05 13:32:15 UTC  

But that is how it is like isn't it?

2020-03-05 13:32:52 UTC  

Just constant Donald Trump quality arguments.

2020-03-05 13:33:16 UTC  

And this isn't a knock on his intelligence.

2020-03-05 13:33:45 UTC  

Just how he goes about explaining his points.

2020-03-05 13:34:45 UTC  

"Lottas Babies, lottas corpses. You should see the abortion clinics. It is like stepping into a German Nursery for Jews. Really bad stuff."

2020-03-05 13:35:52 UTC  

The Left's arguments tend to boil to...

2020-03-05 13:36:28 UTC  

"But this is an inconvenient situation therefore I should be allowed to do X because I am special."

2020-03-05 13:37:27 UTC  

Now my personal belief in abortion is this.

2020-03-05 13:37:41 UTC  

I will let women decide if it should be legal or not.

2020-03-05 13:38:12 UTC  

But if they can kill a kid, I should be able to leave it without giving them money all the time.

2020-03-05 13:39:08 UTC  

> Pro-Life is suddenly a feminist position.

2020-03-05 13:39:14 UTC  

I'm all for parity, but I actually don't think "my body, my choice" carries once someone has gotten pregnant. Guys need affirmative rights in the situation as well as negative. Getting the right to opt out would be a good start, though.