Message from @Mr. Jesus

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2020-03-30 17:42:27 UTC  

they may have come to it because of a pre conceived bias agaisnt gun ownership but it is still legitimate

2020-03-30 17:42:35 UTC  

no because bigger knives reach further

2020-03-30 17:42:49 UTC  

@Puggums If someone is acting in a Christian manner it kinda irrelevant whether they practice or even realise they are.

2020-03-30 17:42:52 UTC  

and bigger people can wield them with bigger force

2020-03-30 17:42:52 UTC  

Yeah, but some guns outperform others

2020-03-30 17:43:24 UTC  

that's interpretive @Mr. Jesus

2020-03-30 17:43:33 UTC  

you're reading into their actions

2020-03-30 17:43:43 UTC  

how would you define "a christian manner"

2020-03-30 17:44:04 UTC  

Lol

2020-03-30 17:44:56 UTC  

@Hopix you can buy a bigger gun but you cant buy being 6ft 6

2020-03-30 17:45:09 UTC  

so you could say guns are *more* of an equaliser

2020-03-30 17:46:23 UTC  

@Puggums the zeitgeist of the western world is generally Christian.

2020-03-30 17:46:30 UTC  

You have to be stronger to effectively use bigger heavier guns

2020-03-30 17:46:43 UTC  

Dellingpole actually has a very good internview with Tom Holland about this

2020-03-30 17:49:13 UTC  

im not necessarily disagreeing with you on the historical context, but that behaviour is primarily socially enforced, and there are plenty of examples of it not being.

2020-03-30 17:49:49 UTC  

you can come to a similar sense of manners without going through christianity

2020-03-30 17:51:21 UTC  

yes you may get similar manners without going through it. However it is a legacy of Christianity. Whether you can or cannot is an irrelevance.

2020-03-30 17:53:55 UTC  

i dont think so since if you accept that you can then it shows that you're reading into peoples actions, you just classify that type of behaviour as christian; would that apply to a foreigner? would someone from a non-christian country who immigrated over be "acting christian"

@breadmoth looks better than the chinese ones but not good still.

2020-03-30 17:54:33 UTC  

FFS. I was talking about the general zeitgeist.

2020-03-30 17:55:25 UTC  

yeah but being programmed a certain way was central to what you were saying 😛

2020-03-30 17:55:44 UTC  

So. It was just an example.

2020-03-30 17:56:20 UTC  

well im disputing it as a good example

2020-03-30 17:56:26 UTC  

and thus the central tennent

2020-03-30 17:56:59 UTC  

you claimed i used confirmation bias earlier and now i throw it back at you, are you not reading in

2020-03-30 17:58:43 UTC  

This is not the same thing at all. You said most of the people you speak to where politcally inclined in a certain way. I said that was likely confirmation bias.

That is very different that saying "Generally in nations there is a certain attitude and zeitgeist that exists"

Richard Dawkins talked about this when he was talking about his definition of memetics.

2020-03-30 17:59:34 UTC  

oh no i meant the term confirmation bias, i get the "everyone i know votes the same as me, how could we lose" part of what i said

2020-03-30 17:59:50 UTC  

i wasnt comapring the two i was just also accusing you of it

2020-03-30 18:00:03 UTC  

when you say people are programmed a certain way

2020-03-30 18:00:24 UTC  

and im not overall disagreeing with the idea of a general zeitgeist just that it universally applies

2020-03-30 18:00:51 UTC  

you can break the conditioning

2020-03-30 18:01:30 UTC  

Zeitgeist means generally

2020-03-30 18:01:39 UTC  

nit picky 😛

2020-03-30 18:01:48 UTC  

theres more than one

2020-03-30 18:02:21 UTC  

I am off. This dicussion has become ridiculous. I am going to try to deal with something more sane like the TypeScript compiler.

2020-03-30 18:02:35 UTC  

hah

2020-03-30 18:02:48 UTC  

i had fun

2020-03-30 18:53:36 UTC  

what, they didn't shoot him? what is this, a pussy state?

2020-03-30 18:55:54 UTC  

virgin state, lets people live; only fines them