So now you want to sell a product to me and we come up with a way that we are both happy. But the government doesn't want it to happen. They can stop it by putting in laws that prevent it. That is force

The EU government can't do that.

but they do

No they don't. What they do is they make certain demands, and if the member states agree to meet them then everything's fine and dandy. But if they don't then the EU is powerless.
And then comes the advantage of negotiation that the EU has in some cases, that you see as force, which it isn't.

They did it to poland and italy aswell aswell as hungary

The EU can only make demands as long as the countries comply. If they refuse, the EU has no power over them.

That by definition means that the EU has no actual power.

there was an interview with peter szijjarto with the bbc but it seems like it has been taken down

What's actually going on is this: the EU puts forth legislation, the parliament votes on it, and it's that parliament that actually has the power. But that parliament is created by the EU member nations and their individual voters, not by the EU.

So all the true power comes from the nations, not the EU. And the nations derive their power from their respective systems, which in the case of the EU countries are different forms of democracy.

So no, the EU has literally no power. The countries have all the power.

The only reason you can't logically see what i'm describing is because from the start you haven't been able to even think that the eu has a means of force. That is bias. Which is why i said lets agree to disagree. i can describe all i want but if you aren't willingly to change for a moment the dogma view you have you never will

If something goes bad in the EU, it's because the leadership of the member states agreed to it. So the blame is on the leadership of the individual nations.

i can give afew examples to finish what i'm saying because now it seems i've become a parrot. The eu is backed by germany and france. they have force.

You're objectively wrong, there's no "agree to disagree". You can make wild claims, but if you have no way of proving them then they're just false assertions. I can easily disprove them by showing you how the EU government is set up.

There is also a global event that every country takes part in. it use to be ruled (the votes) by the usa but now it is china as they've bought the african countries

Can Germany and France just waltz into another EU country and force the direction of their policies and leaders?

i have proved it over and over. even showed you facts. You a dogma. thats not on me. its on you now mate

You have proven nothing.

Can Germany or France just take over another EU country leadership?

"youve proven nothing" isn't an agrument when i've given u facts. You also just assume that a country has to physically be in another for it to be force

Can Germany or France overrule the law of another EU country?

come on mate. your arguments are getting childish

You have given no facts, just opinions. False assertions.

if the eu votes a certain way then yes. The eu unelected offical's can veto and france and germany will back them up

> The eu is backed by germany and france. they have force.
Prove this .

The EU can't force any country's leadership's direction. Not a single one. Germany can't, France can't. They have no power over other EU member states. You have not proven anything, you're only claiming you have proven something when you haven't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQV_DKQkT8o

Unrelated matter. Ignored.

that's the global voting thing

Rejected. Try again with something that's related.

bro germany and france worship the eu. you've already said that mother hitler got rid of her countries flag..

bro, bro, the EU has no power over its member states.

yeah like i've said this is pointless. You live with a dogma

Yes it is pointless, you're too uneducated and too full of your personal bias.

I bet you don't even know how the EU government works.

LOL this is just funny now.

i give you evidence "no thats not true" where is your evidence mate!!

Yeah it's funny, you know very little about anything EU related.

know more than you apparently 🙂

You didn't give any evidence, not one bit.